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Trump signals he's softening on immigration as he says he's 'working on a plan' that will make DREA
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4132578/Trump-says-s-working-plan-accommodate-DREAMers.html ^

Posted on 01/19/2017 12:59:57 AM PST by kelly4c

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To: kearnyirish2

If the government would leave us alone, we could make our own babies, lol.


101 posted on 01/19/2017 10:39:31 AM PST by donna ('God's standards, like it or not, are the basis for the laws that led to western civilization.)
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To: kelly4c

First you deport all Criminal Illegal Invaders. Mandate and enforce Catch and Deport, not Catch and Release.

Then you pass Laws to prevent any Illegal Invader from receiving ANY Government Benefits and require all Employers, whether hiring Contract, Hourly or Salaried Employees to run E Verify background checks. Might be a good idea to make it retroactive as well.

Next you stop Illegal Immigration by building a Wall and tightening up enforcement and passing stricter guidelines to prevent people from overstaying their Visas. (Bono from U2 is worried about all the Illegal Irish who have overstayed their Visas - LOL).

As far as these so called Dreamers are concerned, it was OK for Bill Clinton to deport Elian Gonzalez to a Communist Country by Gunpoint, but the same does not apply to a Republican President.

I’m not sure President Trump would be able to get Congress on board deporting them, so I’m sure that a negotiated outcome will probably happen sooner or later. Maybe make them permanent Resident Aliens with no chance to gain full American Citizenship. (yeah, I know, Schumer would be yelling “second class citizens” or some such rubbish).

We’ll just have to wait and see what happens Folks. Ee’re not even in power yet.


102 posted on 01/19/2017 10:43:53 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Piranha
If you read my posts, I said "IF THIS IS TRUE".

Ivanka is a squish/sort of lefty and obviously you have completely forgotten all of the stuff she has said throughout the primary and election cycles. "EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK" is now a lefty meme and one that Ivanka keeps talking about; which is patently ridiculous, since women DO get paid the same as men do...except when the Clintons hire them.

103 posted on 01/19/2017 12:46:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: M. Thatcher

If you would only read all of my posts...I said “IF THIS IS TRUE”.


104 posted on 01/19/2017 12:47:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 9YearLurker
Yep and WHY some here believe that Ivanka is on "our" side, is beyond me.

Jared comes from a an ALL lefty family, his brother HATES Trump and voted for Hilary and is VERY proud of it. Good grief...I can't believe the heat I'm taking for my FACT BASED supposition.

105 posted on 01/19/2017 12:52:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 9YearLurker
Not on the phone....IN PERSON!

We'll just have to wait and see how this goes.

106 posted on 01/19/2017 12:54:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: jazminerose

They did and still do that in Texas, too.


107 posted on 01/19/2017 12:55:37 PM PST by nopardons
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To: grania

I don’t think it’s fake news or taken out of context. Or even a “betrayal”.

Trump make it quite clear, at least in the last weeks of the campaign, that his immigration policy was only aimed at deporting the low-life criminal element, as a sub-population of the WHOLE illegal immigrant population. In other words he was never referring to ALL illegal immigrants, just the “murderers, drug dealers, gang members” AMONG ALL illegals when he talked about deportation.

And while he made that quite clear during the last weeks and months, I’d even argue he was clear about that from the beginning, from his VERY FIRST SPEECH when he descended that escalator and announced his candidacy. That very first one he was targeting “drug dealers, murderers and gang members” as a PART of the WHOLE group of illegal immigrants.

I heard him and understood that right away. I understood right away he never had any intention of deporting all illegals, “just the criminals” (as if an illegal immigrant isn’t already a criminal by definition). I understood all that and tried to say so here on FR. But we all know how well criticism of The Donald was received here!

No matter. I’m still happy he defeated the Witch and if he does indeed deport all the “criminal illegal aliens” (but I repeat myself right?) I’ll be happy and consider that a campaign promise kept. If anyone disagrees, if anyone considers this a campaign promise broken, well I guess they weren’t paying attention during the primary.


108 posted on 01/19/2017 1:00:38 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: dp0622

We will not have to worry about this, one e-verify is STRICTLY ENFORCED, the borders are SEALED, ALL benefits are stopped for NON CITIZENS they will flee on their own accord, oh and I forgot no medical or sanctuary cities!!! They WILL go home NO REASON to stay!!!!


109 posted on 01/19/2017 1:01:25 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: snowsprite
Haven't YOU learned that just reading one of my posts, you don't get the whole picture?

Haven't YOU Learned anything at all about Ivanka and her stances, from the past almost 2 years?

And if you believe that Ivanka and Jared are "CONSERVATIVES", then I have a lovely bridge, in Manhattan, that was built on my great, great grandparents' property, to sell you...cheap.

110 posted on 01/19/2017 1:06:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: FourtySeven

You make excellent points. My concern is that he has to get the invasion ended. I hope it’s a very early priority, starting by enforcing laws day 1.


111 posted on 01/19/2017 1:43:58 PM PST by grania
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To: nopardons
We're on the same team. I'm just saying the oft-run "Trump-is-betraying-us" ploy is effective because we conservatives have so often been betrayed. But it is NOT happening here.

Ivanka begged her father to APOLOGIZE for his "Mexican rapists" mention in his announcement speech. She has many, many, many, MANY times given him advice he completely, utterly ignored. Have no fear. Trump will no doubt make mistakes, but betraying us - especially on immigration - ain't one of them.

112 posted on 01/19/2017 1:51:28 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: donna

I don’t believe that; Americans are morphing into Europeans, skeptical about their financial futures and determined to live life to the max in the present. The “birth dearth” has gone on for decades; it is coming to the forefront now because our government is actually taking in rapists, murderers, and terrorists out of desperation (and openly refusing to screen anyone at the border).


113 posted on 01/19/2017 1:59:12 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GOPJ

Grim but apparently true...

Soon they will find that they needed those “Western” types to keep it running smoothly; many cities are already reverting to Third World status (with everything provided by Western taxpayers to non-Western residents, and nobody doing any productive work).


114 posted on 01/19/2017 2:01:40 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Altura Ct.

Not mine, compared to what Hillary had planned. Use the common sense God gave to all Freepers.


115 posted on 01/19/2017 2:04:36 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: M. Thatcher
I was a Truper from the moment he announced.

As a born & bred New Yorker ( Manhattan ), I understand Trump better than most, because I share a similar background and upbringing.

And yes, whilst he has somewhat ignored some of the things that Ivanka has told him, we don't know EVERYTHING that she whispers in his ear, but he DID accept and PUSHED her ideas about childcare and other things.

He, himself, has somewhat back tracked on his ILLEGAL stances; which I've heard come out of his own mouth.

Don Jr. is much more like his father and I bet that Eric is too, than Ivanka; though she is obviously the apple of his eye.

You have NO idea what she has told him, nor that he ignore "all", "most", or "some" of it and neither do I.

Ivanka definitely leans leftish.

No president is perfect, but going back on his promises, especially on ILLEGALS,THE WALL, and TAXES, are a big league NO NO, for me and most others!

116 posted on 01/19/2017 2:06:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You're talking to me like you don't know who I am. I too am a New Yorker, born and bred. We've been in the trenches a long time, do you not recall this? But go ahead, buy into the Trump-is-betraying-us load of crap. It is a load the NeverTrumpers and the media have shoveled over and over and over - for a year and a half. To date, it's *never* been true. Not once.

I'm fully aware of who Ivanka is and the circles within circles in the political world. But Trump is way smarter than you're giving him credit for. Fine with me if you go on the Woe-is-us roller coaster. Your choice. You're about to miss out on eight years of joy. Peace out, I'm enjoying the inaugural concert.

117 posted on 01/19/2017 2:22:11 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher
Oh come on...I know who you are, just as you know who I am; we've been in the trenches, here on FR, for a very long time together! Sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't. But I was on the TRUMP Rally threads, before you were; also debating those against him.

No, I don't much care for Ivanka and perhaps that's what don't like about what I've said, more than anything else.

I shan't miss a thing, but it looks as though you have missed much; sadly.

118 posted on 01/19/2017 2:59:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Wonder Warthog

Of course it’s analogous.

People who were brought to the United States illegally by their parents have gained residence through the illegal actions of their parents just as the children of the bank robber are living in the house bought through illegal means. They have no more right to continued residence than the bank robber’s kids. Now you can feel as sorry as you like for either set of kids but neither has any right to the residence that was stolen for them, and the fact that they had nothing to do with the theft they are benefiting from is irrelevant.

That is perfectly logical and indeed just. What would be unjust is to allow them to enjoy special status over and above that of the millions of people who are waiting in line as the law requires (I never did like line-jumpers, BTW.)

Now, if you wish to confer charitable actions upon them, that is your right as a decent human being, but it is not the job of the government. The government’s job is to enforce the law equally.


119 posted on 01/19/2017 3:04:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: nopardons

Ugh.

Yep. We need to watch IMO especially the illegal immigrant thing, as that seems to be the biggy that Trump is talking as if he’s backpedaling on.


120 posted on 01/19/2017 3:04:59 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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