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Passing driver kills man attacking Arizona trooper on road
theeagle.com ^ | January 12, 2017 8:02 pm | Associated Press

Posted on 01/13/2017 8:17:09 AM PST by 11th_VA

PHOENIX (AP) — A man who shot and wounded an Arizona state trooper Thursday along a remote highway and then started slamming the helpless officer's head into the pavement as the two struggled was shot to death by a passing driver, authorities said.

Trooper Edward Andersson, a 27-year veteran of the Department of Public Safety, was shot in the right shoulder and chest in what authorities called an ambush and was in serious but stable condition after surgery at a Goodyear hospital.

"My trooper would not be alive without his assistance," DPS Director Frank Milstead said of the driver who stopped.

Arizona has a "defense of third person" law that allows someone to use deadly force against another who is threatening or injuring a third person. It was not unusual that the passing driver was armed in this gun-friendly state with loose regulations.

"Arizona was open-carry before it was a state," Charles Heller, co-founder of guns-rights group the Arizona Citizens Defense League, said of laws allowing people to carry firearms in public. "If you see a guy walking down the street in Tucson, Arizona, with a gun on, you don't think much of it. It's natural."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; armedcitizen; banglist; police
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1 posted on 01/13/2017 8:17:10 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

It was not unusual that the passing driver was armed in this gun-friendly state with loose regulations.


2 posted on 01/13/2017 8:24:40 AM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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"Arizona was open-carry before it was a state,"
3 posted on 01/13/2017 8:26:06 AM PST by 11th_VA (2016 - Best Election Ever !!!)
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Arizona has a "defense of third person" law

Pretty sure you can't try that in MA. If you see a state trooper being beaten to death in Boston, it's probably best to dial 911. If you are foolish enough to step in and save the cop's life, the police are likely to put you in prison. Not that they would want to, of course -- but we are a dumb state with dumb laws.

4 posted on 01/13/2017 8:26:31 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: 11th_VA

We need an concealed/open carry law from the federal government that will apply to every state of the union. Once you pass a fedearal course and have that federal license, you should be able to carry anywhere in the United States.

It would be the best ting that ever happened to combat foreign and domestic terrorism.


5 posted on 01/13/2017 8:27:28 AM PST by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: 11th_VA

This could have been explained better.

** Arizona has a “defense of third person” law that allows someone to use deadly force against another who is threatening or injuring a third person. It was not unusual that the passing driver was armed in this gun-friendly state with loose regulations. **

Instead of “loose regulations” he should have said that honest citizens are able to exercise their second amendment rights to defend themselves, their family and others.


6 posted on 01/13/2017 8:27:45 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

It was just a super-cucked, AP Style Sheet, manicured, wordsmithed liberal pablum poop phrase.


7 posted on 01/13/2017 8:33:57 AM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Candor7

Country wide reciprocity would be a better options. The next democratic jack wagon would sign an executive order screwing with a federal CCW.


8 posted on 01/13/2017 8:37:07 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: Candor7

Carry of fire arms is only a small part of the equation. The ability to act as the Arizona citizen did without fear of prosecution is also needed.


9 posted on 01/13/2017 8:39:56 AM PST by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: 11th_VA

The driver had the gun in his car and went back to retrieve it after asking the trooper if he needed help.


10 posted on 01/13/2017 8:42:45 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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“A man who shot and wounded an Arizona state trooper”

No name?


11 posted on 01/13/2017 8:45:12 AM PST by Leep (Stronger without her!)
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To: Candor7
We need an concealed/open carry law from the federal government that will apply to every state of the union.

We do. The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of these United States.

12 posted on 01/13/2017 8:46:17 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: smokingfrog

At one time, for those with a pistol license, Suffolk County in Long Island NY had a defense of a third person as well. I am not sure if it still does


13 posted on 01/13/2017 8:46:53 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I just got my CC in KY. This “defense of third person” thing came up. You can do it, but must understand the risk involved. If two guys are in a fight and you take sides by using your gun, and the one you shoot was actually the victim, underver cop, or similar, you are in BIG trouble.

i.e. you can do it, but you had better be sure.

This case seems to rise above that bar. ;-)


14 posted on 01/13/2017 8:49:43 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: clamper1797

“Carry of fire arms is only a small part of the equation. The ability to act as the Arizona citizen did without fear of prosecution is also needed.”

I was just looking to find a state that will issue a CCW to a non-resident. Arizona is such a state. As a Californian, I don’t see this state “loosening” CCW permits in the populated counties any time soon, but if the Feds pass a “reciprocity law” a non-resident AZ permit would be a good thing to have. But AZ has gone one step further recently by adopting “constitutional carry.” While they will still issue anyone a CCW permit, you no longer need one there to carry any way you choose, concealed or open, as I read their current law.


15 posted on 01/13/2017 8:52:50 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Candor7
"Once you pass a fedearal course and have that federal license, you should be able to carry anywhere in the United States."

Apparently this already exists for military veterans. My neighbor (ex- career Air Force) was "tooling up" for a multi-state RV tour, and he mentioned in passing that as a vet, he could apply for some sort of military exemption, which he did. (Note...I am not a vet, so have no clue as to whether what he told me is correct).

16 posted on 01/13/2017 8:58:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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Once you pass a fedearal course and have that federal license

I wouldn't trust federal goons to rake my leaves, much less, make up a reasonable test for anything relating to my firearms. It's none of their business how, or when, I choose to exercise my Constitutional right to bear arms!

17 posted on 01/13/2017 9:03:13 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Moonman62
The driver had the gun in his car and went back to retrieve it after asking the trooper if he needed help.

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Supposedly, the trooper was getting his head repeatedly slammed on the ground. I would say he needed a lot of help.

18 posted on 01/13/2017 9:04:11 AM PST by kara37
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To: vette6387

That is true ... no CCW is required to carry concealed in Arizona. However, a CCW helps the gun purchase process. With a CCW the buyer walks out of the gun shop WITH their purchase that same day


19 posted on 01/13/2017 9:04:32 AM PST by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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With a CCW the buyer walks out of the gun shop WITH their purchase that same day

Is that an AZ quirk? In your neighboring NM, I can walk in, buy my firearm, and walk out all within about 15 minutes (my last name is very unique, and my NICS check takes less time than waiting for a red light). No waiting period at all.

20 posted on 01/13/2017 9:22:20 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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