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Vaccinations: Who Calls the Shots?
The New American ^ | 13 May 2016 | Liza Greve

Posted on 01/13/2017 7:54:34 AM PST by VitacoreVision

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To: NYorkerInHouston

So if we have a lot better rates than 91% AND the # of deaths is still zero, what are you worried about exactly?

And if you saw evidence that the number of deaths from the MMR vaccine was greater than 0, would that influence your viewpoint at all?


41 posted on 01/13/2017 1:10:51 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon
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To: Valpal1

True enough... mortality rate in developed countries is about 0.1%


42 posted on 01/13/2017 1:14:18 PM PST by NYorkerInHouston
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

It would not though clearly one should strive for lower rates of vaccination complications and deaths.

Lower vaccination rates portend higher rates of infection— during the 1970’s and 1980’s the annual incidence of measles infections was 0.06 per million, now it is 1-2 per million.. still minute but nevertheless a 20 to 30 times increase in number of cases per million. If measles becomes endemic again in the population then we could see prevaccination rates in the unvaccinated population of 1.875 to 2.5% with all the assorted badness associated with measles (not to mention rubella and mumps) as outlined above


43 posted on 01/13/2017 1:45:59 PM PST by NYorkerInHouston
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To: Valpal1
More information:

Over 100 Measles Vaccine Deaths, Zero Measles Deaths, Since ’04

The New American
16 February 2015

Over the last decade in the United States, the deaths of over 100 children — at the very least — have been linked to receiving a measles vaccine, compared with zero children dying from the disease itself. By Alex Newman
44 posted on 01/13/2017 2:15:30 PM PST by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

The problem with this claim is that the link is correlation which is not evidence of causation. Again, another non-scientific claim.

That said, I do support parental rights in medical decision making. The mortality rate from measles has been greatly reduced by improved nutrition and medical advances. I am not a big fan of one size fits everybody programs in any area of life.

I myself did not follow the schedule with my children, and made the multiple trips necessary to space the shots out. In fact I didn’t do the Hep C series for infants until they were teens. Same with the stupid varicella shot. I figured is was better to catch it as a child than a vaccination that provides uncertain immunity for an uncertain period of time.


45 posted on 01/13/2017 7:14:04 PM PST by Valpal1 (I am enjoying the lamentations of their girly-men on social media.)
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To: VitacoreVision
sorry, but I am old enough to have seen measles and measles encephalitis in the US. I suspect you have not.

I have also seen measles kill children when I worked in Africa.

Measles vaccine saves lives. Epidemics stop quickly because of herd immunity stops it spreading to the vulnerable.

and measles is more severe in adults and in children with immune problems.

No, lady, you are not an expert. You just read a bunch of books including a lot by self proclaimed experts with an anti science agenda.... And as they say, garbage in garbage out.

46 posted on 01/14/2017 4:45:49 AM PST by LadyDoc
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