Posted on 12/26/2016 11:49:22 AM PST by Lorianne
President-elect Donald Trump on Friday released a letter he received from Russian President Vladimir Putin, wishing Trump success as president and encouraging more U.S.-Russian cooperation.
Putin wrote Trump in a letter dated Dec. 15, offering the incoming president "sincere wishes to you and your family of sound health, happiness, well-being, success and all the best."
(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...
Mr. Putin is so polite and cordial.
He must read Miss Manners everyday.
First, Putin get the hell out of Ukraine.
Forget about taking over the world.
Then sit down with DJT how to make world better and prosperous.
“taking over the world”
Yeah - how dare the Rooskies put their borders so close to our military bases surrounding them !!!!!
I seem to remember something called the Cuban Missile Crisis when the Russians put some missiles in Cuba, and how we welcomed them with open arms.
Not only that, but we gave our own version of Crimea, Guantanamo Bay, back to Cuba too.
I wonder how we would react today if China started building a military base in Tijuana, Mexico...
Bilateral? And at the same time he is hacking into our government computers, selling Iraq, North Korea, and Iran middle range missile capable of carrying NBC, and artificially assisting in the petroleum market throughout the world by trying to introduce and push his new oil and natural gas fields in Siberia blowing out the market in Venezuela causing them to go under along with a number of our secondary oil companies. What’s he want to do, swap Christmas Cards?
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There seems to be real respect between Putin and Trump.
It’s nice having two grown ups leading the two most powerful nations in the world
“It’s nice having two grown ups leading the two most powerful nations in the world.”
Under no metric is Russia one of the two most powerful nations in the world.
>Under no metric is Russia one of the two most powerful nations in the world.
Power is measured in the ability to destroy. Under that metric Russia’s larger and recently modernized nuclear stockpile makes Russia #2 in the world only due to our superior anti- ballistic missle tech.
Putin knows that the days of kicking sand in America’s face are over.
>>And at the same time he is hacking into our government computers
Evidence?
Here’s a few articles to indicate the Russian spying system and it’s leading into government hacking:
At least one computer system belonging to the D.N.C. had been compromised by hackers federal investigators had named “the Dukes,” a cyberespionage team linked to the Russian government.
The F.B.I. knew it well: The bureau had spent the last few years trying to kick the Dukes out of the unclassified email systems of the White House, the State Department and even the Joint Chiefs of Staff, one of the government’s best-protected networks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.html?_r=0
“My definition of what the Russians did is, unfortunately, honorable state espionage,” Hayden said. “A foreign intelligence service getting the internal political emails of a major political party of a major foreign adversary? Ah, game on. That’s what we’d do.”
Hayden said it’s “good spy stuff” for a country to try to learn “how much of those platform positions the potential president-elect believes in personally, or doesn’t.”
That “is good spy stuff, that’s stuff we go for all the time,” Hayden said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/hayden-russia-us-cyber-elections/
Russian spies did not, of course, wait until the summer of 2015 to start hacking the United States. This past fall, in fact, marked the twentieth anniversary of the world’s first major campaign of state-on-state digital espionage. In 1996, five years after the end of the USSR, the Pentagon began to detect high-volume network breaches from Russia. The campaign was an intelligence-gathering operation: Whenever the intruders from Moscow found their way into a U. S. government computer, they binged, stealing copies of every file they could.
By 1998, when the FBI code-named the hacking campaign Moonlight Maze, the Russians were commandeering foreign computers and using them as staging hubs. At a time when a 56 kbps dial-up connection was more than sufficient to get the best of Pets.com and AltaVista, Russian operators extracted several gigabytes of data from a U. S. Navy computer in a single session. With the unwitting help of proxy machines—including a Navy supercomputer in Virginia Beach, a server at a London nonprofit, and a computer lab at a public library in Colorado—that accomplishment was repeated hundreds of times over. Eventually, the Russians stole the equivalent, as an Air Intelligence Agency estimate later had it, of “a stack of printed copier paper three times the height of the Washington Monument.”
The Russians’ tactics became more sophisticated over time; they even hacked satellites to cover their tracks. But while the American code names used to track the Russian effort changed—from Moonlight Maze to Storm Cloud to Makers Mark—the operation itself never really stopped. Over the next two decades, the FSB (successor to the KGB) and the GRU (Russia’s premier military intelligence organization) went after political and military targets, while the NSA and the UK’s GCHQ returned the favor.
This sort of espionage was business as usual, a continuation of long-standing practice. And during the cold war, both the USSR and the United States subtly, and sometimes covertly, interfered with foreign elections. What changed over the past year, however—what made the DNC hack feel new and terrifying—was Russia’s seeming determination to combine the two. For the first time, Russia used a hacking operation, one that collected and released massive quantities of stolen information, to meddle in an American presidential election. The inspiration and template for this new attack was a poisonous cocktail of fact and fabrication that the Russians call kompromat, for “compromising material.”
Kompromat had been deployed by the Soviet Union since at least the 1950s, but in 1999 the Kremlin gave the tactic a high-tech update. With parliamentary elections fast approaching, and with post-USSR corruption at a peak, the government of president Boris Yeltsin used anonymous websites to sling mud at opposition candidates. One notorious kompromat repository was run specifically to slander the mayor of Moscow, a rising star in the opposition with his eyes on the presidency. In 2009, a senior British diplomat working in Russia was forced to resign after the appearance online of a four-minute video that showed him having sex with two blond women in a brothel.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49791/russian-dnc-emails-hacked/
Charles P Grant, the led writer and blogger for Esquire magazine and past writer for such liberal sources as The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune,an the Boston Globe Sunday magazine,
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There’s more to this article, an a lot more than is being spotlighted, This is part of what I did in my military career. And you’ll notice I didn’t patch and paste any articles that were known conservative sites to make anyone think this was a conservative hit piece. The NY Times, CNN, and Esquire magazine are hardly conservative.
The spy game has been going on for a couple of centuries plus back to the time of Mata Hari. And we are just as guilty as they are. But as the countries, especially the US, have become so much more dependent on data storage, it is really expected for this to happen. And the depth of it is a constant challenge to assess. Moves too fast.
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The articles you linked were lame excuses for the grandma-on-the-internet stupidity and hubris of DNC officials.
The NYT & CNN articles simply quote national security bozos attesting to Russian origin of DNC system “hacks”, which weren’t hacks at all.
I don’t consider quotes or claims of “consensus” among anonymous national security personnel to be evidence.
Assange has said that the origin of the DNC material wasn’t Russian. I would trust Assange before I trusted any US national security official.
Anyway, this is pointless. The DNC isn’t the US government. I doubt whether those dime-store communists are even Americans insofar as I define it.
Since you don’t believe anyone but a criminal like Julian Assange, and only him, not open to other opinions or facts, then it is going to be very difficult, or impossible, to hold a conversation with you on what has happened and how it got the way it is.
Cyber hacking has been going on since the invention of computers, the invention of the net, and the governments, all of them, using them for communication and storage. Here’s a source coming from Assange’s product you seem to trust, Wikipdia.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/politics/how-russians-hacked-the-wh/
Here’s an interesting article that didn’t tell the whole story about submarine hacking of communication and computers. It is being done by us in this article. But I can promise you the Russians are playing the game along with the Chinese just outside our ports also. I live in Tacoma WA, just outside JBLM where I retired. In our area we also have the nuclear sub base at Bangor, the nuclear attack ships at Bremerton, and the navy brain box in Seattle. There have been foreign subs outside our control areas on the coast hacking into them for years. And we know it and hide info giving them enough lies to make what they are getting untrustworthy. We know they’re there, and they know we know. It’s a big game but we play it rather than go to war.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/07/29/america-is-hacking-other-countries-with-stealthy-submarines/?utm_term=.f22c879280e4
The assimilation of information, even when it is misdirected like the DNC break in by Russia, by the media explanation, is a result of trying to use information to blame the wrong guy for the action. I firmly believe Russia was sure Hilary was going to win based upon their believing the hype, and wanted to get a step up by discovering her policies not published yet, or were not going to be, by hammering into the DNC and her personal server in her basement. But she didn’t win, so the info they got would, most likely have little to do with the immediate future. Too bad, so sad.
I hope you take the time to open up your theories to using a number of sources to get a cross reference so you can pinpoint down a theory that is understood by more than just one source like Assange, who is currently hiding in an Ecuadorian embassy. On 16 August 2012, Foreign Minister Patiño announced that Ecuador was granting Assange political asylum because of the threat represented by the United States secret investigation against him and several calls for assassination from many American politicians. Assange was granted asylum from being extradited to Sweden where he would have stood trial for sexual assault and rape, But his fear of being further extradited to the US has kept him living in the embassy in London. He has almost no where to go and if he steps outside the embassy, he is subject to arrest for violating his bail options.
.Assange and his supporters claim he is concerned not about any proceedings in Sweden as such, but that his deportation to Sweden could lead to politically motivated deportation to the United States, where he could face severe penalties, up to the death sentence, for his activities related to WikiLeaks. Thise activities are related from Russian hacking of private and government servers containing sensitive information.
The world has come a long way since the sperry vacumn tubes. And not all of it is public or legally been determined illegal. But breaking into any computer for the purpose of harvesting sensitive material for any reason is spying, period. And whether it was done on her basement server in her home that she used stupidly for sensitive high level information storage and passing government business using talk around or literally patching and pasting to hide the security level markings, is espionage by her to do it when she was briefed not to and was aware of the risk of invasion. And to be fair, the Russians, who we know grabbed it, along with many others that play this game, should send her a thank you.Christmas card. I have friends that get them from her and Bill as a covert reminder to keep their mouth shut about what they know. And we all know what happens to those that don’t.
Have a happy new year.
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I didn’t say I didn’t believe anyone except Assange, who in my view is not a criminal. If you do your own research, you can see that the charges (charges, not convictions) against him are trumped-up nonsense promulgated by a CIA front company (Todd and Clare) on scant evidence.
And I definitely don’t believe CNN or the NY Times. They have time and again acted as propagandists for the Deep State and its agenda, whether that is an Iran Nuke deal or war in Iraq.
I don’t believe anonymous sources, especially when reported by fake news sources such as CNN. Names, titles, and credentials, please. I need to see source materials rather than taking someone’s word.
You say:
>>But I can promise you the Russians are playing the game along with the Chinese just outside our ports also.
How much money will you pay me personally if your promise is broken? Probably for less than a few million US dollars I wouldn’t believe a “promise”.
Original source materials establishing an clear causal relationship? Now that’s another story.
The US would be better off today had US citizens demanded evidence for the claims made by the US intelligence community in the Tonkin Gulf affair. Or, for that matter, the claim of deployable WMDs in Iraq, or the claims of genocide in Kosovo in 1998-99.
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