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More States Consider Working Around the Electoral College
abcnews ^ | Dec 23, 2016, | susan haigh, associated press

Posted on 12/23/2016 12:33:48 PM PST by mdittmar

Frustrated after seeing another candidate secure the presidency without winning the national popular vote, mostly Democratic lawmakers in several capitols want their states to join a 10-year-old movement to work around the Electoral College.

In states including Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New Mexico, legislators have said they plan to introduce legislation that would require their state's Electoral College voters cast ballots for the presidential candidate who earns the most votes nationwide, regardless of the statewide results.

"Every vote in this country should have equal weight. The Electoral College is a relic of a bygone era, and we need to change this system," said Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer, who filed a bill with several fellow Democrats requiring Connecticut to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

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To: wny

But the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate interstate compacts. If Congress. The states involved call it a compact.


81 posted on 12/23/2016 2:02:48 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: mdittmar
Frustrated after seeing another candidate secure the presidency without winning the national popular vote, mostly Democratic lawmakers in several capitols want their states to join a 10-year-old movement to work around the Electoral College.


Has it ever occurred to them not to be such fascists and to become pro American and propose popular policies?
82 posted on 12/23/2016 2:05:46 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( Agenda driven news is fake news.)
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To: roostercogburn

The states involved say their pact is binding once states representing 270 electoral votes adopt it. Congress has power under the US Constitution to regulate interstate compacts.


83 posted on 12/23/2016 2:07:34 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Windflier

That’s too hard. In theory the smallest 13 states can block ratification. The compact only requires the legislatures of the 11 largest states.


84 posted on 12/23/2016 2:15:38 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: fatman6502002
"If this ever happens it will mean civil war."

And, the breakup of the Union (USA). Guaranteed.
Conservative Americans in other States will never submit
to being bullied and lorded over by the likes of those nutcases
in California and NY.

85 posted on 12/23/2016 2:16:09 PM PST by StormEye
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To: All
Every vote in this country should have equal weight.

It's the Electoral College that ensures that every vote has equal weight, you boob! Otherwise we should nuke NYC and LA to "keep things even".

86 posted on 12/23/2016 2:28:23 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: polymuser
"Ballots counted by REAL R and D party rep’s."

There is more than one instance, in Communist fortresses, of democrats claiming to be republican poll watchers, so they can fiddle with the outcomes in local elections, particularly in Chicago.

Put a pile of sandbags, head high, as a bullet stop, in the parking lot, as an object symbol of the fate of vote thieves....

87 posted on 12/23/2016 2:28:45 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: polymuser
"Ballots counted by REAL R and D party rep’s."

There is more than one instance, in Communist fortresses, of democrats claiming to be republican poll watchers, so they can fiddle with the outcomes in local elections, particularly in Chicago.

Put a pile of sandbags, head high, as a bullet stop, in the parking lot, as an object symbol of the fate of vote thieves....

88 posted on 12/23/2016 2:32:09 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: mdittmar

Oh, I get it. You want to be able to vote for someone who leads the whole country but you don’t actually want the whole country to get to choose that leader.


89 posted on 12/23/2016 2:32:50 PM PST by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: xzins

“I will accept the winner of a congressional district taking that district’s elector and the winner of tbe most cd’s in a state taking the 2 statewide electors. I think that would actually be closer to the intent of the founders.”

I agree with your idea.

Even in a blue state like Minnesota (10 EV’s), Trump would have won 4 EV’s instead of getting shut out. Romney probably would have won 3 EV’s.

States like Oregon, Washington and California would become benefit from it too.


90 posted on 12/23/2016 2:36:45 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Paleo Conservative

Around the Electoral College, Paleo Conservative wrote:

“No! Congress can weigh in. If legislatures want to set up an interstate compact, Congress has plenary powers to regulate interstate compacts”

The left will seek SCOTUS determination. Thankfully Trump will bring the weights and measures of SCOTUS back into alignment. I’m not reading between the lines. The left desires to rule by mob action. It was made evident during the unrest that highlighted BHO’S administration. The legacy of civil unrest and the desire to tear down the constitutional republic. Congress will do their work but on appeal through the 9th district and then federal appellate SCOTUS will become involved. The enemies of the constitutional republic know the hoops, they will try, and they must fail.


91 posted on 12/23/2016 2:39:55 PM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its egg roll.)
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Another posting of this same article with some 40+ comments
if anyone would be interested in reading thru them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3507703/posts


92 posted on 12/23/2016 2:41:35 PM PST by deport
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To: mdittmar

Texas needs to join with several other states with a combined total of more than 270 electoral votes and all enact legislation prohibiting their states from ever entering into this compact. That would end this stupidity once and for all.


93 posted on 12/23/2016 2:42:48 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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To: sargon
"Will take effect"? Did Congress pass this?

Congress doesn't have to pass it. Under the Constitution, the states can have compacts. The states also determine how they will allocate their electoral votes.

Thus, we should all be educated enough to resist such erosion of a properly conceived and well-balanced system. People would to well to read the Federalist Papers...

If only that were the case. Most people are ignorant when it comes to our history and the Constitution. The direct election of the President has great appeal to the uninformed along with the Dem party, which is changing the composition of the electorate thru mass immigration.

95 posted on 12/23/2016 2:49:51 PM PST by kabar
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To: Steve_Seattle

Direct election of the President has great appeal, especially to people who don’t understand the Constitution.


96 posted on 12/23/2016 2:51:53 PM PST by kabar
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To: Clutch Martin

Nah, the states have the right to determine how their electors are apportioned.

The proponents haven’t really thought out the practical aspects, though. These measures will only pass in Democrat dominated state legislatures, which are primarily in the same states that the Democrats won anyway, so it’ll only come into play when the Republicans win the popular vote. And it’ll turn elections into unanimous Republican victories. I’m not sure that’s what they had in mind.....


97 posted on 12/23/2016 2:52:57 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Rusty0604

It is illegal for illegals and non-citizens to vote. Enforcement is left up to the states.


98 posted on 12/23/2016 2:53:39 PM PST by kabar
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To: mdittmar

More leftist pap


99 posted on 12/23/2016 3:03:59 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

Simple fix: since electoral college is based on the number of house members (435) plus number of Senators (100) as well as DC (3), then which ever candidate wins a congressional district wins that EV. Which ever candidate wins the most popular votes in a state gets both Senatorial EVs. Who ever wins DC gets those EV. That way everyones vote counts.


100 posted on 12/23/2016 3:08:08 PM PST by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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