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Sixth Circuit Court: Police Can Shoot Dogs For Nothing More Than Barking
reason.com ^ | 12/22/2016 | C.J. Ciaramella

Posted on 12/22/2016 7:59:39 PM PST by Elderberry

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To: Elderberry

Better knock and serve papers polightly, kick in my door and lead is flying out a hell of a lot faster than you are running in. I ain’t waiting to see if Santa comes in. Actions speak louder than words.

Wouldn’t thugs yell POLICE if they kicked in your door? Real cops knock and give you a warrent. Thugs kick in doors,

Nope, I live very rural, cops here are good guys, quite a few are my friends. I trust them. Kick in my door and you will not shoot my dog unless I missed.


21 posted on 12/22/2016 8:59:05 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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22 posted on 12/22/2016 9:08:52 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Shadowstrike

Pull a weapon on my dog and we’ll all go down.


23 posted on 12/22/2016 9:24:16 PM PST by blackdog
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To: soycd

Do you even understand the point I was making?


24 posted on 12/22/2016 9:36:51 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: soycd
Keep them on a short chain or prepare for their demise.

You DO have functioning brain cells do you not? You can READ, correct? These dogs were well-contained IN THEIR OWNER'S HOUSE! How short a chain do you keep YOUR pets on INSIDE YOUR OWN HOUSE? The cops chased the second one into the basement and shot it in cold blood, even though there was NO THREAT!

You evidently know little about dog behaviour. A dog that is growling after running away from you is warning you to leave it be. Dangerous dogs that are about to attack are SILENT.

Some days I wonder about some of my fellow FReepers...

25 posted on 12/22/2016 10:05:13 PM PST by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Elderberry
See... this is where I draw the line.

I have several close relations for whom I do not care nearly as much as I do my dogs. They are as much a part of my family as any human.

Any person that attempts to shoot one of my dogs is dead long before he clears leather. Cops included.

"To Serve And Protect" does not, cannot include killing loved, cherished family members. Want proof?

Ask a cop, or a judge, what happens if I shoot a police dog? See what I mean? Double standards suck ass, and need not apply.

I'd kill them deader than Glenn Beck's "The Blaze."

26 posted on 12/22/2016 10:29:05 PM PST by Gargantua ("President Trump... until the final Trump sounds..." ;^)
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To: Shadowstrike

“hurt my dog, and I’m going to jail...whether I’ve done ANYTHING else or not.”

You and I think exactly alike. Our dogs have always been considered family. Moreso now, that all of our children are grown and have their own families.


27 posted on 12/22/2016 10:30:31 PM PST by vette6387
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To: 5th MEB

I’d prefer to twist his nuts off with some vice-grips. For starters...


28 posted on 12/22/2016 10:31:57 PM PST by Gargantua ("President Trump... until the final Trump sounds..." ;^)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
“To you it’s just some dog you don’t like. So that’s OK. Well, plenty of times that same reasoning is applied to people.”

You realize that you are describing what happened at Twin Peaks restaurant in Whacko, Texas a little over a year ago. And here on FR you have “people” ( and I use the term loosely) that think it was o.k. for the cops to indiscriminately kill people because “they didn't like them," or that they "deserved it" because of who they were!

29 posted on 12/22/2016 10:35:51 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Don W
"Some days I wonder about some of my fellow FReepers... "

It can get confusing. Here, let me help:

Some of our fellow FReepers are assh0les. Plain and simple.

30 posted on 12/22/2016 10:37:36 PM PST by Gargantua ("President Trump... until the final Trump sounds..." ;^)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

http://blogs.findlaw.com/legalgrounds/2009/06/cop-shoots-and-kills-attacking-miniature-dachshund.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmvudelfYcw

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/police-officers-who-shoot-dogs/283764/


31 posted on 12/22/2016 10:44:37 PM PST by matthew fuller (Democrats have not been this apoplectic since Republican Lincoln emancipated THEIR slaves.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I’m sure the owners had those dogs because they were sweet-tempered and imperturbable.

There are many memories of the sixties in my book in my tagline.


32 posted on 12/22/2016 10:46:28 PM PST by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: Elderberry

To me, there is a very big problem in government deciding what it can be held liable for or not. ‘Oh, we’ve decided that was reasonable force.’ On the other hand, officers are liable if they break the porcelain teapot while searching the china cabinet.

So to boil down the decision - anything which a court can imagine being a threat to officers is reasonable force. So here’s my question to the court: IF such action is indeed ‘reasonable’, then are they indeed stating that if a civilian took the SAME actions they too would be shielded from repercussion?

Because if the answer is no, there is a problem. A huge problem that needs to be rectified.


33 posted on 12/22/2016 11:09:19 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: soycd

Sometimes that doesn’t help. I’ve seen videos of cops shooting dogs who were restrained and no danger to anybody.


34 posted on 12/22/2016 11:38:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: DoughtyOne

Valdo said, “You better call off your dogs or I’m gonna shoot ‘em.”

The voice from inside the house said, “Go ahead and shoot ‘em.”

The old man looked down and rubbed his forehead with his fingertips. He looked up and said, “You’ve done it now, mister.”

An older Hispanic woman stepped out of the house carrying a lever action rifle. She said, “But if you shoot my dogs, then I’m gonna have to shoot you.” She kept moving forward. “But I’m an old woman. My eyes don’t work so good no more. I’ll have to shoot a lot of bullets to make sure you don’t shoot back.” She reached the end of the porch and stepped onto the driveway. “I guess I’ll just have to keep shooting until you start to change shape. You know, just to be sure.”

The man said, “She isn’t kidding.”

A drop of muddy sweat ran down the side of Valdo’s face.

The woman moved forward again, stopping about 20 feet from the car. “That’s what going to happen to you if you shoot my dogs,” she said. “Come to think of it, I might just shoot you anyway.”

She brought the gun stock up to her shoulder and lined the sites up on Valdo. Everybody froze. Nobody said a word. In the silence they heard a squirrel chatting in a nearby tree. A bluejay called out in the distance. The wind blew and rustled the leaves in the aspen trees.

The woman pulled the lever down and back up, cocking the gun.

From the book, Collateral Crimes


35 posted on 12/22/2016 11:45:59 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Don W

Living with the carnage a pit bull has caused in my life I have zero sympathy for these useless creatures. Much like the trash crashing our borders and causing damage to innocent humans.


36 posted on 12/23/2016 12:44:23 AM PST by soycd
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To: Secret Agent Man

We are from the government, and we are here to help........ What a slippery slope.... Me, I’m with Tho. Paine.


37 posted on 12/23/2016 12:44:49 AM PST by Oil Object Insp
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To: 5th MEB

Yep. Same here.

L


38 posted on 12/23/2016 12:49:55 AM PST by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: Gargantua

There is absolutely No reason to own a dog, unless you are using it as a service animal. I’m not just talking about police service either.

To own a dog and put it above a human being, is beyond my comprehension. In my opinion, anyone who thinks/says that, means their logic is clouded.


39 posted on 12/23/2016 1:02:13 AM PST by koalkracker1981
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To: koalkracker1981
"To own a dog and put it above a human being, is beyond my comprehension."

Yet, if a Police Dog comes on my property and I shoot it, I'm arrested and charged with the murder of a Police Officer.

Isn't the irony rich? Seems your equivocation doesn't hold real-world water, FRiend.

In the real world, the only thing lower than a dog, is a dog killer. And I'll shoot every one that has the bad judgement to show me his darkest colors. So FU and your smarmy human-worshipping bullsnot.

40 posted on 12/23/2016 1:38:51 AM PST by Gargantua ("President Trump... until the final Trump sounds..." ;^)
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