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1 posted on 12/16/2016 3:48:40 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The LCS may be worthless as a fighting vessel but for the purposes of pumping huge sums of taxpayer money into the hands of the right corporate cronies it is a huge success.


2 posted on 12/16/2016 4:22:15 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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I doubt that the huge entire fleet in World War II came close to costing $29 billion. And we had over 100 aircraft carriers.


3 posted on 12/16/2016 4:26:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The LCS may be worthless as a fighting vessel but for the purposes of pumping huge sums of taxpayer money into the hands of the right corporate cronies it is a huge success.


4 posted on 12/16/2016 4:29:11 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pierre Sprey has long been a hero in my eyes. I didn’t realize he was in cahoots with POGO, but I suppose it was inevitable. When I first knew him, he was a member of the credentialed acolytes of the late John Boyd, along with the boys from Elgin. POGO are flyweight cage-rattlers in comparison. You can generally take Sprey’s theses to the bank, if you allow for his penchant for inflammatory language.

TC


5 posted on 12/16/2016 4:47:23 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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I worked on that project of about 5 years and this kind of information should have come out years ago. The people evaluating the program were the head of the divisions whose jobs depended on it. If they failed the program, they and everyone who worked for them all lost their jobs.

The whole concurrent design and construction thing was a bust. Can you imagine designing a house as you’re building it?

The crew was so small that there was no redundancy. In a wartime scenario there was no plan for casualties or for people to do battle damage repair.

The weight of the ship was so critical that they only carried enough projected spares for a normal week of mission operations. Anything above that had to come from another ship or port.

The hardware and software issues were monumental.

That was the only Navy ship program that I ever worked on, so I had nothing to compare it to. It just seemed really disorganized and poorly planned to me.


11 posted on 12/16/2016 6:09:12 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Defense acquisition is a mess period and I don’t blame the big defense companies I blame the government period. Doesn’t matter the program or the program size it’s just a broken system.

If you need a new ship or aircraft (or whatever) you start with a need, define what you want with requirements based on that need and then select a source to build that ship or aircraft that best meets those needs. This is where it goes to hell because there’s constant leadership/management turnovers everyone wants their stamp on it so they change and modify requirements constantly so nothing gets done on time and the money pours in.

Kind of like building a single story 3 bedroom home, changing to two story 4 bedroom, then remove the 4th bedroom and make a playroom, add a garage, put the kitchen where one of the other bedrooms was get almost done and you forgot bathrooms so you start over and decide you want a convenience store.

As a builder... you just keep going because “they” keep giving you money to make all these changes.


12 posted on 12/16/2016 6:46:50 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising)
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These new modern ships really seem quite ugly to me. I realize that a naval vessel is supposed to be a fighting machine, not a cruise ship; but would it have killed the architects to at least make it look a little bit appealing? In terms of aesthetics, these tubs have nothing on the great World War II ships.


13 posted on 12/16/2016 7:33:03 AM PST by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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