Sheriff's investigation finds Obama birth certificate 'fake'

World Net Daily ^ | 15 December 2016 | Bob Unruh

[Fractal Trader]

A years-long forensics investigation into the computer image of the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate image that Barack Obama released during a White House news conference during his first term and presented to the American people as an official government document reveals it is “fake.”

It also confirms those who were subjected to the derogatory “birther” label from many media outlets and Democrats for badgering Obama with lawsuits, petitions to the Supreme Court, and more, were right – at least in the dispute that the document was manufactured and the questions about Obama’s birth and legitimacy to be president under the Constitution’s requirements still are unanswered.

[Nero Germanicus]

No one has ever challenged the Hawaii Registrar’s Letters of Verification for Obama’s birth certifcate in a court of law or in congressional testimony. Those letters were accepted as valid by two states’ Secretaries of State (Arizona and Kansas) and by U.S. District Court Judge Wingate in Mississippi. The two Secretaries of State waited until they received those letters before they approved Obama for their state’s ballots.

State issued copies of Obama’s birth certificate are sealed and stamped by the Registrar and copies were introduced into evidence in eligibility challenges in state administrative law court in Georgia (Powell, et al v Obama), in federal district court in Mississippi (Taitz et al v Mississippi Democratic Party Executive Committee, Obama, Pelosi, Fuddy, Onaka, et al) and in an amicus brief before the Alabama Supreme Court (McInnish v Secreatary of State Beth Chapman).

Congress established the Federal Rules of Evidence as the way to determine if a public record is accorded Full Faith and Credit.
Federal Rule of Evidence 902: “Evidence That Is SELF-Authenticating”

The following items of evidence are self-authenticating; they require NO EXTRINSIC EVIDENCE OF AUTHENTICITY in order to be admitted:
(1) Domestic Public Documents That Are Sealed and Signed. A document that bears:
(A) a seal purporting to be that of the United States; any state, district, commonwealth, territory, or insular possession of the United States; the former Panama Canal Zone; the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands; a political subdivision of any of these entities; or a department, agency, or officer of any entity named above; and
(B) a signature purporting to be an execution or attestation.
4) Certified Copies of Public Records. A copy of an official record — or a copy of a document that was recorded or filed in a public office as authorized by law — if the copy is certified as correct by:
(A) the custodian or another person authorized to make the certification; or
(B) a certificate that complies with Rule 902(1), (2), or (3), a federal statute, or a rule prescribed by the Supreme Court.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_902

President Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth has an official seal and the Registrar’s Certification Stamp and Signature. Therefore the birth certificate shall be given (and HAS been given) “Full Faith and Credit.”

Federal Rule of Evidence 1005
“COPIES of Public Records to Prove Content”

The proponent may use a COPY to prove the content of an official record — or of a document that was recorded or filed in a public office as authorized by law — if these conditions are met: the record or document is otherwise admissible; and the copy is certified as correct in accordance with Rule 902(4) or is TESTIFIED to be correct by a witness who has compared it with the original. If no such copy can be obtained by reasonable diligence, then the proponent may use other evidence to prove the content.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_1005

[butterdezillion]

No certified paper copy of a BC has been admitted anywhere. Don’t even try to say otherwise because we all know better.

A) of #4 is precisely what I’m talking about. The custodian of the record is Alvin Onaka. He refused to certify the letters of verification. Therefore they are NOT self-authenticating. And by HI statute the only lawful reason for him to NOT issue a certified verification is if he CAN’T.

[justiceseeker93]

Here’s what the Nordyke Twins’ mother said: “I entered the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital on early Friday afternoon, August 4, 1961. I was registered and my expected twins were given Hawaii State birth certificate numbers 10637 and 10638. My labor was slow with poor contractions from a distended uterus.

“Apparently, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama came in shortly after I arrived, because her baby was registered as number 10641. Her labor was strong, and she delivered Barack Hussein Obama early that evening. The next morning my contractions strengthened. The twins finally emerged at 2:05 and 2:12 p.m. Saturday, August 5th. By the way, I don’t want to do that again!”

I remember this story from the Honolulu newspaper about the time that Obama was first inaugurated president. It's obvious that Mrs. Nordyke does NOT personally recall Stanley Ann Dunham from her time in the hospital maternity unit in 1961. She's only reciting this for the newspaper, so that they can put her on their front page for what seems like, for the unsuspecting, a touchy-feely human interest story (very topical for the time of the inauguration), and which seems like some proof or corroboration that Obama was born in Kapiolani. But it won't wash when even the hospital itself has no record of Obama's birth at Kapiolani.

[Nero Germanicus]

See Exhibits A through C at the link:
SCOAL 2013-04-24 McInnish|Goode v Chapman APPEAL - ADP Amicus Brief
https://www.scribd.com/book/137926683

See pages 11 & 12 of the following motion:
Mississippi Democratic Party Motion v. Taitz
https://www.scribd.com/book/96289285

[Nero Germanicus]

This article I quoted from wasn’t in the newspaper, it was in a magazine published by an organization called “Women’s Media Center.”

Here’s the newspaper article:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Dec/22/ln/hawaii812220320.html

There was also this article in an English language Swedsh newspaper:
http://www.thelocal.se/20110429/33472

[Nero Germanicus]

“But it won’t wash when even the hospital itself has no record of Obama’s birth at Kapiolani.”

Since an attending physician, David A Sinclair, MD at Kapi’olani signed the Certificate of Live Birth on August 8, 1961, that’s all the record that is required.

[okie01]

Since an attending physician, David A Sinclair, MD at Kapi’olani signed the Certificate of Live Birth on August 8, 1961, that’s all the record that is required.

Yes, but who has seen the actual Certificate of Live Birth?

[Nero Germanicus]

It has been inspected by two Hawaii Directors of Health, the state Registrar and it has been seen by whoever made the photocopies.

For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”

Under Hawaii Revised Statute 338-18, the original vital record can be released for inspection to: “A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;”

In other words, convince a judge that there is a legitimate reason to see the original, get the judge to issue an order for its release, inspect it. Or a judge can inspect it n his own.
Also congressional subpoenas have the legal authority or a court order so an investigative committee of Congress can subpoena the birth certificate.

[okie01]

In other words, convince a judge that there is a legitimate reason to see the original, get the judge to issue an order for its release, inspect it. Or a judge can inspect it n his own.

Also congressional subpoenas have the legal authority or a court order so an investigative committee of Congress can subpoena the birth certificate.

All well and good. But can you explain why Obama believed it necessary to create a fabricated document -- much less post it on the web as "evidence"?

Isn't that the question that needs an answer?

[justiceseeker93]

That story you linked to in the Swedish English-language newspaper is taken directly from CNN. It was right at the time when the Obama White House released the PDF of the questionable BC. All they are doing is repeating a CNN observation that the mother of Sig Waidelich claimed to have seen a black baby being delivered in the maternity floor at the time she was hospitalized. To most of us conservative observers of CNN, the credibility of this lady is highly questionable, when you consider the timing of this story and the Obama White House political agenda, and the known propensity for CNN to obfuscate the truth in the furtherance of the Obama/Democrat agenda. Wonder if that now-elderly lady, the mother of Sig Waidelich, was destitute and accepted a "gratiuity" from CNN in exchange for a fabricated story.

[justiceseeker93]

Since an attending physician, David A Sinclair, MD at Kapi’olani signed the Certificate of Live Birth on August 8, 1961, that’s all the record that is required.

Required for what? We're not litigating in court now. We'll never know if Dr. Sinclair actually treated Stanley Ann Dunham, since neither of those were ever asked that question, and both are long deceased. That's why a hospital patient record would clarify this, unlike a highly questionable PDF of a purported BC on which Dr. Sinclair's signature could have been forged or stamped or produced electronically, even after his death.

[Nero Germanicus]

Certainly anything is possible, but Its PROVING it that has been difficult over the last 9 years.

“Required” for a hospital birth to be recorded by a state.

Hospitals don’t typically keep records of routine procedures from 56 years ago. The Certificate of Live Birth documents the event and additionally there was the “Health Bureau Statistics” column in the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Sunday Advertiser newspaper and the “Marriage Applications, Births, Deaths” column in the August 14, 1961 Honolulu Star-Bulletin newspaper which both list the Obama birth occuring on August 4, 1961.

From 2011:
“At 6:00 this morning my daughter in law Dawn Sinclair called and said mom you’ve got to go on TV, President Obama released his live birth certificate and dad delivered him. It was great news. A big big surprise for all of us,” said Ivalee Sinclair, Dr. David A Sinclair’s wife.

The Sinclair family has made quite an impact in Hawaii. Ivalee Sinclair came to Hawaii on the very first civilian ship to the islands. She is a Jefferson Award winner for her work advocating for special needs children and co-authored the Felix Consent Decree. Dr. David Sinclair’s dad built Hawaii’s first airport. Now delivering a president can be added to the Sinclair family’s list of accomplishments.

David A Sinclair was a fighter pilot in World War II. After the war he returned to Hawaii. He fell in love and married Ivalee in 1947.

“I know he was beloved by many people,” said Sinclair.

He was an Obgyn in Hawaii from 1960 to 1988 and delivered thousands of babies in that time but he and his family had no idea one of them would go on to be president.

“Rather awesome,” laughed Sinclair. “Amazing, I knew he was a good physician and I knew he took good care of his people, but I had no idea he delivered someone of such fame.”
She says President Obama’s mom was likely Dr. Sinclair’s patient because he worked in a solo practice and did not respond to deliveries for anyone but his own patients.

Dr. Sinclair passed away in 2003 but Mrs. Sinclair has no doubt it’s her husband signature and says there is no way it’s faked or forged.

“That is his signature and I have many pieces of paper with his signature on it and I’d be happy to show them to anyone who questions it but that is his signature,” said Sinclair.

Even still she’s guessing this won’t be the end of the issue.

“I think if you choose to believe it’s not true, you will always find a way not to believe it. I hope that people that are reasonable and rationale and believe in facts will put the rumors to rest and we move on,” said Sinclair.

Today Governor Neil Abercrombie said, “No rational person can question the president’s citizenship.” He also says, “It is an insult to the President, his parents and the office to suggest he was not born in Hawaii.”
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/14529568/president-obamas-birth-certificate-delivers-news-to-doctors-family

[Nero Germanicus]

Stig Waidelich can be asked about his mother’s financial situation. He still lives in Hawaii.
What CNN did was go down the lists in the newspapers of other babies born at the same time as Obama. They wanted to see birth certificates. That was what the news segment was about.
Stig Wadelich’s birth was listed They couldn’t locate Stig but they got ahold of his mother who then gave them Stig’s phone number. Stig didn’t have a copy of his birth certificate. He agreed to go to the Hawaii Department of Health with CNN’s crew to get one. He got a short form, abstract, computer print out Certification of Live Birth.
I don’t know if he or his mother were paid but the article that was originally in the Swedish paper Espressen is not what was televised on CNN.

[Fantasywriter]

What is Anderson’ source for that claim?

Btw, it is Anderson who confirms that Bill Ayers, not obama, wrote Dreams From my Father. What do you think of the magnitude of the lie Obama has perpetrated, in claiming to be the author of a book that was actually written by a terrorist?

[okie01]

Btw, it is Anderson who confirms that Bill Ayers, not obama, wrote Dreams From my Father.

Cashill also concluded this, by finding near-identical scenes and passages in Obama's Dreams of My Father and Ayers' Prairie Fire.

[Fantasywriter]

Cashill is a genius. He did indeed blow the lid off Obama’s big literary scam/fraud. However, Obama’s true believers [we have one on this thread] would simply say that Cashill is mistaken.

Anderson, otoh, cites multiple sources who confirmed to him that Ayers wrote the entire book, Dreams. That may be one reason Leftist-Progressives don’t cite Anderson’s book much if at all; it makes their hero into a bumbling liar who not only couldn’t write his own memoir—he has pathologically taken credit for this one big accomplishment, which it turns out wasn’t his accomplishment at all.

[Rastus]

They were confirmed by the Senate, so they’re legit even if everything else from this hellacious administration is overturned.

[okie01]

The first time I heard Obama speak without a Teleprompter, I figured his books had probably been ghost-written.

Writers are often slow to express themselves in speech -- usually because they are searching for words with the precise meaning they want to convey -- but they are expressive.

Obama searches for words, too. But invariably comes up with cliches. Or mistakes. Or incoherent phrases. It's painful.

Besides which, didn't somebody run into Ayers in an airport, ask him about the controversy as to authorship...and Ayers admitted it was he who actually wrote the book?

[butterdezillion]

I don’t have time to waste. Why should I take the time to look at those things? You typically give a bunch of information that is irrelevant; why is this relevant? Does it address the seven instances of lawlessness by the HDOH?