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[little jeremiah]

Cool, I never saw the second youtube.

Odd that the MX and VS are the true parents video’s never go up...

[Fred Nerks]

Anecdotal, simply one blogger repeating the words of another. Pity about that, I thought you may have sourced something we missed.
I did hear that garbled audio in which ‘Granny’ Sarah spoke. Of course she was ‘there’ when Barack was born, she was one of the wives of Onyango, possibly even assisted the mother, Akumu, at the birth.
The translation of that audio was very poor, there was no way one could tell which ‘Obama’ she was referring to, or when it took place.

The missionary story is something else. The Kenyan student was pathetically short of funds, he was begging the African American Students Foundation for assistance, he had arrived in Hawaii with enough money for one semester, and stated he needed to find work. He worked at the Dole Corp Cannery for one month, earning $1.53 an hour, iirc.
That was after his patron, Elizabeth Mooney-Kirk was no longer able to support him.
Airline tickets for two to Kenya and return would have been way beyond his capacity. The clan in the village, we are asked to believe, was supporting his wife Kezia (if she really was his wife) and her two children. Take a good look at how they lived - on corn they grew, chickens and a few cows they milked. The clan couldn’t have raised enough funds for a bus trip to Nairobi in 1960-61, let alone return flights for two to Kenya/Hawaii.
Onyango worked as cook for Gloria Hagberg for a time, he lived sparely, read his Koran by candle-light.

You might counter by saying that the Dunhams paid the airfares. Sorry, that doesn’t wash either. Ann S Obama listed in the Hawaii directory wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham, who didn’t show up in Hawaii until after she changed her name to Ann Dunham Obama in January 1963, when we see her photographed with a toddler, and she enrolled at the University of Manoa.

She may have made one short appearance in late August 1961 when she showed a very young baby to Susan Blake, and told her she was going to Boston that very same day; after which none of her friends or classmates saw her again. ( Well, not until they tried to change their stories later.)

The girl who had a child to the coal black Kenyan student wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham, she appears to have been a foreign student herself, renting a room at the Pratt/Dunham residence. And after her child was born in January 1961, she went to Seattle and rented a room at a boarding house managed by the famous baby-sitter, Mary.

Who just turns out to have been married at the time to a son of the man married to an aunt of the young actress named in the video...Mama Told Me There Would be Days Like This.
Truth is stranger than fiction. And never boring.

[Fred Nerks]

hahaha! Google put a stop on the counters.

[jonrick46]

This sentence is very troubling. I want to take the time figuring out its meaning, but I think it will turn out to be gibberish:

“Who just turns out to have been married at the time to a son of the man married to an aunt of the young actress named in the video...Mama Told Me There Would be Days Like This.”

I have issue with the information that Stanley Ann had a wish to go to Boston after her visit with Susan Blake. She in fact registered as a student at the University of Washington, which is right across Lake Washington from Blake’s home on Mercer Island. Susan Blake, by the way, is still alive today and anyone with an ounce of ambition, could interview her on the details of Stanley Ann’s visit back in August of 1961, weeks after Baby Obama was born. Is Mercer Island too far of a trip for the gumshoe class to visit Susan Blake?

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/09/dreams_from_ann_dunhams_girlfriends.html

If you were half-bright and bushy-tailed, you would be asking yourself, now who on earth would she have known in Boston?

Yes, it’s possible someone involved in this fairy tale attended the U of WA, but it was most unlikely that it was Stanley Ann Dunham. The so-called transcripts were supplied to WND by email and without any official provenance.

AS to the relationships you question, may I suggest you look a little deeper into the background of the people involved in the story. You’ll find it if you look, I’m sure. It always surprised me that no one bothered.

[little jeremiah]

Nerks can remember better than me and knows more, but I have read the interview with Blake, which was posted on FR, and she stated in the interview that SAD said she was on her way to Boston to meet up with “her husband” the Kenyan, who was in Boston.

Of course, the Kenyan was not in Boston then but in HI...

Did you read the research threads as they happened? Because if you did, you would not think anything F.Nerks wrote above to be gibberish. It is all documented, I’ve read it, based on interviews, news articles and the like.

[little jeremiah]

I’ved looked at it a few times over the years, often to copy and paste someplace, and the numbers have never gone up.

At least they haven’t taken it down.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/10/just_when_was_obama_born.html

excerpt:

Mary was interviewed before the release of Obama’s purported birth certificate. It was important to have witnesses confirm an early August birth. Susan Blake claimed that Obama was “pink and very new” in late August 1961, just “three-weeks old.” Mary Toutonghi remembers a seven-month-old whom she babysat in the beginning of 1962. The question is — was she mistaken about the date of first encounter?

To jog her memory, Mary recounted the age of her own daughter: “[She] was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 [this has been verified] and that would have placed the months of babysitting Barack in January and February of 1962.” Those dates, however, don’t add up. A child born in July 1959 would be 18 months old in January/February of 1961, several months before Ann reportedly moved to Seattle.

Perhaps to rectify this problem, Mary tried another way to remember the time she babysat. In a 2009 WND interview, Mary stated, “My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year ... so that would make the time around February and March 1962.” Again, the math doesn’t work. The year 2009 minus 50 gives us the correct birth year for Mary’s child, but adding 18 months again brings us to January/February of 1961.

[Fred Nerks]

It’s like a merry-go-round, each turn you get asked the same silly questions. The answers have been there since we first started with the first Long Thread. It’s complacency and laziness that has brought about this incredible situation.
Bill Ayres is laughing. The myth that Stanley Ann Dunham was zero’s mother continues. You just can’t kill it with facts.
People like Joel Gilbert are making money out of presenting a high school girl who wasn’t even in Hawaii when a set of exotic photographs were taken and published in 1958 of a professional model...and trying to tell you that Frank Marshall Davis, who was older than Stanley Ann’s father, had a relationship with her. It boggles the mind.

She wasn’t in Hawaii. She had been accepted to attend University in Chicago, where her aunt and uncle both were attached to the university. Uncle Charles T Payne was Deputy Director of the university library, from 1960 until his retirement in the 90’s.

He and his sister Margaret are now both deceased. Check them out on Find A Grave.

Stanley Ann Dunham enrolled at the university in Hawaii in 1963 after she changed her name to Ann Dunham Obama. That’s the same name as on the fake LFBC, AND they added (Stanley) in brackets.

She probably did show a newborn to Susan Blake, and she certainly told her she was going to Boston that very same day. What you need to know is who did that child belong to?

Who were his parents? And who was Anna Obama for whom Mary babysat. They certainly were NOT the same woman. And one child was three weeks old and the other was 7 months.

signed...Sysiphus

[Fred Nerks]

... when Susan Blake tells you that Stanley Ann Dunham was going to take the very young baby she brought with her to show Susan, to Boston that very same day, where as far was anyone knew, she didn’t know anyone...and wouldn’t have had a job or a place to live, it’s no great leap into the unknown to assume she was going to ELLA.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3504673/posts?page=111#111

[jonrick46]

My narrative that Stanley Ann enrolled at the University of Washington the fall of 1961, is supported by your “American Thinker” article.

When Stanley Ann traveled with Obama Sr. to Kenya to get his father’s blessing in the marriage, all hell broke out. I suppose, the sight of pregnant Stanley Ann was the icing on the cake! It is my theory that Obama Sr’s father went into a rage and demanded a complete separation which forbade his son from finishing his studies at the University of Hawaii if Stanley Ann was attending there too.

So, Stanley Ann after giving birth to Baby Obama, travels from Kenya aboard a British Airways jet liner to the University of Washington, which is her old home digs, and a very convenient move. The University of Washington at Seattle have documents, Sept. 25, 1961, showing Stanley Ann was enrolled for extension classes on campus. And Obama Sr. returned without wife, on a separate jet liner according to his father’s stern directive, back to the University of Hawaii. INS documents show Obama Sr. filing for an extension to continue his education in Hawaii Aug. 31, 1961. He did not go to Harvard until he finished his degree at the University of Hawaii. He finally received his Bachelor’s Degree in economics and mathematics in June, 1962 — after three years in Hawaii, as a Phi Beta Kappa straight-A student.

It was between August 1961 and March 1962, Barack Obama Senior was accepted into Harvard’s Doctorate program in economics.

[rx]

"Loretta Fuddy certified 0dunga's BC in Hawaii. SHE'S DEAD."

To protect his attempts at claiming eligibility to hold the office of POTUS, the _resident set in motion a fraud (within a fraud) that faked a catastrophic engine failure and ditching that cost American and foreign companies scores of millions of dollars, which ultimately came from US taxpayers, aviation company shareholders, and customers.

In that fraud scenario, Loretta Fuddy was said to have died, but in context, the images below, taken by an unusually well outfitted videographer, prove that she departed alive while all of her fellow passengers and pilot looked on, belying their complicity as they would later make copious misrepresentations about the "ordeal." She was replaced for the remainder of the scenario by a tall, lean, red-wigged US Navy diver, who wore distinctively different shoes. What the USCG plucked from the water was in multiple ways provably not Ms Fuddy.

The upper image shows the real Ms Fuddy floating next to her Deputy Hawaii Health Department Director, while the lower shows the Navy diver next to the same deputy director. (Note the differences in scale for him next to Fuddy, then the diver.)
I'm thinking it's a virtual certainty that ("wenn sie nicht in der Zwischenzeit gestorben ist") she's watching many pretty sunsets with her feet in the sand.

False court documents have been filed that implicitly and fraudulently sought millons of dollars in unwarranted compensation.

[Fred Nerks]

How very sweet. He takes his pregnant girlfriend to get his father’s blessing for the marriage whilst his wife Kezia and her two children are living in the village. They tell us Kezia attracted 14 cows as a dowry. I wonder how many cows his number two wife was worth?
Reading what you wrote makes me feel like I stepped in something smelly and runny.

And there I was, about to answer the rest of your questions. Forget it. I wouldn’t want to upset your complacency or interfere with your motive.

[rx]

See post #252.

[jonrick46]

Obama Sr’s second wife was his ticket to his student VISA status. No cows were needed.

[Fred Nerks]

Have it your way. I have no wish to lock horns with someone who probably lives in Seattle and has their own reasons for protecting friends or relations.
Both WND and American Thinker have made it quite clear there are holes in the self-serving fairy tales told by both women.
Take it up with their writers if it aggravates you.

[jonrick46]

I am shocked my revelations posed a conflict with your thinking on the story of Obama. All I wanted to do is give some input revealing was what I knew was the true story. It was not at all motivated by my connections to the Seattle area and the University of Washington.

In fact the article you gave, “Just When Was Obama Born?,” provides information that Obama’s operatives may have “managed” the story. Ann Dunham’s girlfriends, Susan Blake and Maxine Box, and the babysitter, Mary Toutonghi, may have been directed to give a different story than what they knew. The idea that they may be “protecting friends or relations” may be a strong possibility. That idea agrees with my skeptical nature to believe Dunham’s Seattle connections were indeed “managed” to muddy the true narrative. I hope that with Obama soon to be out of power, someone would find these people and try to get information about what they really know.

[Spunky]

Ping for later viewing.

[thecodont]

How many reasons would a generic person have to fake a birth certificate?

parents
heritage
race
place of birth
age

?

[little jeremiah]

A freeper who lived in Seattle at the time SAD supposedly enrolled there, and was attending and/or connected to the university, knows for a fact the dates are totally wrong on the emailed “document”. Because he was there.