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Islamic State made weapons in Mosul up to military standards: report
Reuters ^ | December 13, 2016 | By Stephen Kalin, Dominic Evans, Larry King

Posted on 12/14/2016 2:16:31 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

Islamic State militants have been producing weapons on a scale and sophistication which matches national military forces and have standardized production across their self-styled caliphate, an arms monitoring group said on Wednesday.

Conflict Armament Research (CAR) said the jihadist group had a "robust supply chain" of raw materials from Turkey, and the technical precision of its work meant that it could not be described as "improvised" weapons production.

"Although production facilities employ a range of non-standard materials and chemical explosive precursors, the degree of organization, quality control, and inventory management indicates a complex, centrally controlled industrial production system," it said in a report following visits last month to six facilities once operated by Islamic State in eastern Mosul. . .

. . .CAR, which identifies and tracks weapons and ammunitions in conflicts, said the facilities it visited were part of a system producing weapons according to precise guidelines issued by a central authority.

Production included a monitoring system with regular, detailed reports on production rates and quality that helped ensure standardization - usually to the tenth of a millimeter - across the jihadists' once sprawling territory in Iraq and neighboring Syria. . .

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1 posted on 12/14/2016 2:16:31 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Thanks Turkey. Some NATO ally you are!


2 posted on 12/14/2016 2:19:43 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Having spent a career in weapons production, I find this disturbing as it adds a whole new level of unexpected complexity to ISIS. Having said that, the source materials should have been traced and stopped long before they got to Syrian territory. The fact they weren’t indicates that Turkey has a secret policy of helping ISIS. This is unexpectedly stupid of the Turks as their country is vulnerable to the same sort of civil war and they are, in effect, training the fighters for that coming conflict. There are at least four groups in Turkey who want their own country. Turkey could become another Lebanon. Iran will certainly help the Turkish rebels because that will leave them as the preeminent power in the region.


3 posted on 12/14/2016 2:23:36 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
Why is this unexpected... according to lord McCain he met with and talked with these people all the time.. And we gave these rebels of Obama all manner of weapons.
4 posted on 12/14/2016 2:26:59 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Will major patent violatons mean that an army of lawyers will now be descending on the Middle East?

This may be the way finally to destroy ISIS.

“A lawyer with his briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns.” -Tom Hagen


5 posted on 12/14/2016 2:27:17 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

Head space?
Oh, it’s within a tenth of a millimeter...
Right.


6 posted on 12/14/2016 2:30:24 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Gen.Blather
There are at least four groups in Turkey who want their own country. Turkey could become another Lebanon. Iran will certainly help the Turkish rebels because that will leave them as the preeminent power in the region.

I would expect Shiite Iran to try to undermine both Sunni Turkey and Sunni Saudi Arabia.
And getting Infidel help from Russia is a bonus. -Tom

7 posted on 12/14/2016 2:43:42 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Gen.Blather
"This is unexpectedly stupid of the Turks"

Erdogan is building his own caliphate. He probably views helping ISIS as just "preparing the battlefield" for his own takeover once the region is destabilized further.
8 posted on 12/14/2016 2:48:44 PM PST by Enchante (Hoping the Clintonistas are gone from our public life forever!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

“And we gave these rebels of Obama all manner of weapons. “

Because giving somebody weapons and them building their own to the high standards indicated are orders of magnitude apart. You can give weapons to savages and they’ll use them just fine. But don’t expect unsophisticated savages to build those weapons. The level of education, training and infrastructure implied is staggering...and, at least by me, unexpected.


9 posted on 12/14/2016 3:10:05 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Facilities since moved to Syria and southern Turkey ...


10 posted on 12/14/2016 3:17:09 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Which military?


11 posted on 12/14/2016 3:42:42 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Conflict Armament Research (CAR) said the jihadist group had a “robust supply chain” of raw materials from Turkey”

Dare we suspect it was with a wink and a nod from Erdogan, who would rather go after Kurds in Syria than get rid of ISIS.


12 posted on 12/14/2016 4:08:49 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Gen.Blather
I suspect the weapon makers are not ignorant savages but are college educated, even probably educated at some US university. Morsi was American educated.
13 posted on 12/14/2016 4:18:22 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Go on You Tube and look at these so called improvised weapons. Give me a welder, a chop saw, and some kids to scavenged pipe/steel from the ruins...I can build two-three mortar tubes per day.


14 posted on 12/14/2016 4:42:15 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Gen.Blather

If Turkey’s support of ISIS is a secret, it’s one of the worst kept. Turkey has been selling oil for ISIS the entire time, has harbored the terrorists, and has provided safe transportation routes. Either way, the sheer brutality shown by ISIS proves only the bias of the West. We see the savagery and assume these are backward degenerates, but ISIS is composed of men from varied socio-economic and educational backgrounds. Evil isn’t synonymous with ignorance, but Islam is.


15 posted on 12/14/2016 4:43:38 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Mosul was Saddam’s hometown. I’m sure they are including Tabuk Arms which was built for Saddam by Zastava. It doesn’t take Super Villians to make villagers show up for work they have been doing in their neighborhood for forty freakin years.


16 posted on 12/14/2016 5:04:42 PM PST by The Toll
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