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How Hillary Lost Michigan: Laugh out Loud Worthy
American Spectator ^ | December 14, 2016, 9:37 am | MELISSA MACKENZIE

Posted on 12/14/2016 7:04:33 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Ancesthntr

I agree. For sue something has to be done about voter fraud.


61 posted on 12/14/2016 8:15:59 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: TakebackGOP

“She wasn’t campaigning heavily.”

She was a deeply flawed candidate running on name recognition and the notion (won’t say ‘fact’) that she has lady-parts. She knew she dropped in the polls when she spoke, so she didn’t speak, but rather counted on a supposed DJT gaffe to keep her afloat. Also, as posted above, she believed her own BS.


62 posted on 12/14/2016 8:17:42 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: Geronimo

Moore’s crazy, but not stupid, he heard the anecdotal evidence shouting all around him, as we all did, the unpollable dems who finally walked the RAT party for good.

HRC just couldn’t accept that any of her centrist party voters needed jobs, too. Not only did she not put out for them, she made it clear she was going to FORCE them into DJT’s job-creating arms by continuing and amplifying zero’s job-killing policies.


63 posted on 12/14/2016 8:18:08 AM PST by txhurl (Chode: a word about taglines)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Is this type of coordination between the campaign and the pac run by SEIU illegal?


64 posted on 12/14/2016 8:18:54 AM PST by sharkhawk (GO CUBS GO)
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To: LS

A BOOK? Geez! Don’t give it away like that! Some liberals might take their heads out of their asses long enough to take note!


65 posted on 12/14/2016 8:21:37 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty (I support a woman's right to lose.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

...because Detroit failed in understanding how many votes needed manufacturing..... imho


66 posted on 12/14/2016 8:21:49 AM PST by PigRigger
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To: LS

We’ll never know if ORCA was GIGO or a good model, it having failed the day before the election. I’d like to think ADA was sabotaged :)

But the RATS have kept the vote fraud to ~5pts for elections.. they know now they should have dialed it up two more points, but O’Keefe had them spooked, looking at jail time. So, DJT really won by 7pts overall, not including CA.


67 posted on 12/14/2016 8:23:34 AM PST by txhurl (Chode: a word about taglines)
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To: LS

We’ll never know if ORCA was GIGO or a good model, it having failed the day before the election. I’d like to think ADA was sabotaged :)

But the RATS have kept the vote fraud to ~5pts for elections.. they know now they should have dialed it up two more points, but O’Keefe had them spooked, looking at jail time. So, DJT really won by 7pts overall, not including CA.


68 posted on 12/14/2016 8:23:34 AM PST by txhurl (Chode: a word about taglines)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Sort of like mixing up the Kool Aid for the masses and then finding that you like drinking it yourself...

The tendency to “want too believe” is even more dominant when the principles of logic and persuasion are no longer taught and children pass throught he educational system without being challenged to evaluate what they hear and develop critical thinking skills. As our schools have done for decades now.


69 posted on 12/14/2016 8:26:03 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: bigbob

Actual the LA Times poll was off by more than most polls. They had Trump winning by 3% in the popular vote and instead lost by 2.5%-3%. That’s a fairly large miss. Rasmussen was the closest IIRC.


70 posted on 12/14/2016 8:28:26 AM PST by rb22982
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’m telling you it was the Russians. They came in through Canada and voted for Trump. Then snuck back home. Through Alaska.


71 posted on 12/14/2016 8:31:11 AM PST by McGruff (If you tell a lie and keep repeating it, stupid people will come to believe it.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Democrats screwed up by running Hillary instead of Biden.

I still think Biden would have won if he ran against any Republican. The Liberals love it when their guy is a bit “off”. Just look at Tim Kaine. LOL

Doesn’t matter anyway, just like all these excuses about Hillary’s Campaign. We won, they lost. Next...

Just my $.02, your Mileage may vary.


72 posted on 12/14/2016 8:31:26 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Mainstream Media is another Man's Ministry of Propaganda.)
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To: LS

Very intersting, thanks. So it too is a tracking poll, it was also conducted over the internet rather than on the phoone. Even more interesting that it was an “opt-in” poll and makes no claim to being a statistically-valid sample.

I think this proves my argument that probability polling is a relic of the past, with better methods now available that can better reflect the actual sentiment of voters.

Most telling is the following - another key similarity to the Daybreak poll, which only compensates for demographics, not party affiliation:

“The People’s Pundit Daily U.S. Presidential Election Daily Tracking Poll does not weight based on party affiliation (party ID). Polling results are weighted based on the U.S. Census Current Population Survey for demographics such age, sex, race, education and region”


73 posted on 12/14/2016 8:31:52 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: WaldenPond

One word...GOD...


74 posted on 12/14/2016 8:33:16 AM PST by WaldenPond (No Taxation Without Representation)
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To: rb22982
I stand corrected, I should have said the Daybreak poll was about the only one that consistently showed Trump in the lead, which put it so far from the conventional polls that the MSM wanted it excluded from the RCP Average. I did find this summary chart from a WaPo article, which does not include the PPD poll that LS says was closest, but it may have been excluded by the criteria of the researcher:


75 posted on 12/14/2016 8:36:56 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: LS

If DJT hadn’t trounced Hillary, she would have still pulled it out. Fact is, he had literally overwhelming numbers so that even her fraud couldn’t help her.


76 posted on 12/14/2016 8:40:26 AM PST by Kenny
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To: bigbob

which only compensates for demographics, not party affiliation:


It took Trump Democrats until after Romney’s loss to really start feeling the pain zero was intentionally inflicting on the middle class. The ‘14 midterms was the best model for 2016; when 25% of Dems realized their party had been hijacked and was not likely to be rescued.

HRC 1) Refused to believe the party had jettisoned 25% of its own base, wilfully, and 2) Was too chicken to name Castro as her VP. With him, she could have achieved 8pts of vote fraud and it would be impossible to untangle or prove.


77 posted on 12/14/2016 8:44:13 AM PST by txhurl (Chode: a word about taglines)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I think that Hillary & her cronies THOUGHT they had used
enough massive voter fraud (dead “voters”, illegal aliens
that HUSSEIN OBAMA gave the green light to vote, voters
voting multiple times, etc.) - to jettison her fat butt to
the Presidency. BUTT, they miscalculated.


78 posted on 12/14/2016 8:47:21 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Junk Silver

And Obama can’t swoop in with corrupt justice dept sjws to challenge or shut down needed swamp draining.


79 posted on 12/14/2016 8:51:37 AM PST by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Many Black people consciously voted against Hillary by choosing to stay home. How are they stupid?


80 posted on 12/14/2016 8:52:15 AM PST by spintreebob
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