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Reagan was great, but it's now Trump's turn
Fox News Opinion ^ | December 9, 2016 | Steve Moore

Posted on 12/08/2016 9:36:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Has Ronald Reagan passed the Republican Party baton to Donald Trump?

I suggested as much a few days ago, critics objected that I was blaspheming the Gipper. They said his ideas of limited government, individual freedom, lower taxes and peace through strength will live on forever.

Amen to that. Yes, Reagan's ideals should always be the guiding light of the GOP. Radio talk show host Mark Levin, reminded his listeners that Reagan won two landslide elections, while Trump so far has won one narrow victory. Levin says that Reagan was a real conservative, and Trump isn’t, "Shame on you, Stephen Moore," he lectured.

But the critics are entirely missing my point. ‎Trump won with states like Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which the GOP has rarely, if ever, carried since 1984. He put together a working-class coalition that included many longtime and union Democrats in a way that few Republicans — even George W. Bush in his two victories — were able to do. He appealed to these voters with a somewhat different set of policy promises than Reagan did.

It is true that many of the voters who crossed over to the GOP were the old Reagan Democrats. But I met many union workers who told me they voted for Trump and who never before voted Republican....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; reagan; trump
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1 posted on 12/08/2016 9:36:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump can go down in history as the man who saved the United States from the abyss. Not an exaggeration.

And there’s every reason to believe he will do just that.


2 posted on 12/08/2016 9:44:58 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Paulie

my generation refers to the Reagan presidency with pride I hope that twenty five years from now this generation of kids will refer to the trump presidency with the same reverence


3 posted on 12/08/2016 9:46:09 PM PST by PCPOET7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Different great men for different times. Similarity: both were very secure in themselves and their patriotic values, and didn’t govern by consensus.


4 posted on 12/08/2016 9:50:10 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Has Ronald Reagan passed the Republican Party baton to Donald Trump?”

DOH! How the heck could he do that? What an absurd question. Unfortunately, he is not here to do so. The RINOs fought Trump tooth and nail but the people, who have been ignored, disrespected and insulted by them for many years, have spoken. Make America Great Again!


5 posted on 12/08/2016 9:52:18 PM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In spite of what the crank Mark Levin says, Trump did win in a landslide - an electoral landslide. And he did it in a much more difficult environment for a Republican than the one Reagan faced. After the major fraud in Detroit that appears to have been uncovered from the recount, it wouldn`t surprise me if he in fact one a popular vote landslide as well.


6 posted on 12/08/2016 9:53:44 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reagan didn’t do anything to secure the border. I guess that makes him a ‘real conservative’ according to Levin


7 posted on 12/08/2016 9:54:44 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t listen to Levin anymore.

I shared his concerns about Trump, but I’m so far thrilled with Trump since the election. And I admire that Levin neither went #NeverTrump.

But the day after the greatest victory for conservatism since 1980, Levin was frothing at the mouth in fury that fewer people were going to see the need for his precious constitutional convention of the states.

This won’t undo the vital service Levin was to conservatism and America during the dark days of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama, but man, I wish he’d retired around November 6th.


8 posted on 12/08/2016 9:58:36 PM PST by dangus
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To: ari-freedom

Not fair... Reagan got double-crossed on border security, and Levin has been very good on the issue of illegal immigration in recent years.

But Levin’s idolatry of libertarian trade has him constantly screaming in fury, when he should be at least happy Clinton didn’t win.


9 posted on 12/08/2016 10:01:01 PM PST by dangus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...Here’s a grain of salt.

Sure Trump won and gained lots of unexpected support from all over and I love it. But one gigantic factor to consider in this election was that the alternative candidate was a filthy, rotten criminal creep named Clinton. Even democrats looked to a frumpy old socialist so they wouldn’t have to vote for that garbage wagon full of corruption, who thought she was entitled because what? She purportedly has a vagina? The DNC had to cheat to get her across the finish line.

It was a change election as I predicted over a year ago before Trump ever even caught fire. The pendulum swung back to the right as it should. Especially after such a horrid 8 years of an immature, racist a-hole as president.

We won, we did it for Trump and I’m as happy as anyone here could be. But let’s face facts here. The democrats idiocy helped out a lot.


10 posted on 12/08/2016 10:01:31 PM PST by Bullish
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Inwas in my 20’s when Reagan was president. It was a great time to be alive. I am so happy that my son, who will soon be 18, has a chance to experience American greatness like I did when I was young.


11 posted on 12/08/2016 10:01:59 PM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: ari-freedom

Reagan signed an amnesty too

Government has grown every year for the past 105 years , in all 3 levels of government.Ronald Reagan is the only politician to ever significantly reduce government regulations. Trump plans to reduce regulations even more, reduce taxes, and government employees (All 3 have never happened in the last 105 years never) Politicians like Romney and Ryan talk a good game but they are ALL professional bought off liars.That’s why government has grown every year

Only Reagan reduced Regulations significantly and IKe deported illegals .ALL other Politicians did nothing good except the above bad things at all 3 levels of government for the last 105 years

2012 Romney R nominee for President , Paul Ryan VP, many here were praising them .These 2 actors fooled most conservatives .Now Trump exposed these 2 as bought and paid for shills for globalist rich donors. Ditto for all of them except Trump and Reagan, Ike


12 posted on 12/08/2016 10:02:41 PM PST by rurgan (Trump and Reagan are the only 2 politiicians to EVER have reduced Gov Regulations)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The economic malaise is similar, the existential threats to our security and culture are different. The required solutions won’t be exactly the same. At least the top marginal tax rate isn’t over 70%.


13 posted on 12/08/2016 10:06:12 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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F-ing nevertrumpers still at it:

“Levin says that Reagan was a real conservative, and Trump isn’t, “Shame on you, Stephen Moore,” he lectured.”

F you, Levin!

“Andy McCarthy of National Review recently spouted the new favorite line that many Republicans would have beaten Hillary Clinton.”

F you, McCarthy! Oh, and you’re an idiot to boot: any of the other Pub candidates would have been crushed like bugs by the onslaught of the enemedia. Only President Trump could have put together the unique winning coalition that he put together. Does anyone really believe that people would have crawled across broken glass to vote for Yeb! or that Cruz would have attracted independents and Democrats to vote for him? I don’t think so. Pretty much everyone but the die-hard “true conservatives” would have run away from Cruz screaming.


14 posted on 12/08/2016 10:06:32 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Government regulations have grown tremendously every day at all 3 levels of government state federal, local. This is true for the last 105 to 110 years at least with the exception of the Reagan years at the federal level.

Actions matter. Words mean nothing.According to action Reagan has been the only conservative , the rest liars. Trump will reduce Regulations. This is just one example . ditto for laws, government, gov employees, gov control, illegals,3rd world immigrants , and so on to infinity.

So to Levin if you give a good speech then you are a conservative well in that definition He and the one he supported are conservative. In the real world stupid is as stupid does.

And Smart is as Smart does and as Trump will DO

15 posted on 12/08/2016 10:17:31 PM PST by rurgan (Trump and Reagan are the only 2 politiicians to EVER have reduced Gov Regulations)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Before the election, I read a run-down of how the Democrats/Marxists had already changed the country by importing legal and illegal aliens, terrorists, etc., by killing babies, by destroying families, by propagandizing children in the Marxist government schools—etc., etc.

Even so, and even with Hillary stealing five states, Trump won.

Trump MUST roll back the Muslim/Mexican invasion. He MUST clean up the voting system. He MUST destroy the government schools, and cleanse the Marxists from the universities.

And, of course, by “he,” I mean Americans.


16 posted on 12/08/2016 10:18:23 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: dangus

Reagan didn’t just sign amnesty. He spoke in favor of it several times. He was the one who coined the phrase “ are those illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won’t do?”


17 posted on 12/08/2016 10:24:18 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: rurgan

Check out the record of the Harding/Coolidge years. Government employees down. The budget cut in half. Surplus every year. The national debt down one-fifth. (Or was it one-third?) Two-percent deflation over eight years. GDP almost doubled. Income tax top rate cut from 70% to 25%.

Coolidge’s speech for July 4, 1926 frontally defies “progressivism.” He knew exactly what he was opposing.


18 posted on 12/08/2016 10:24:50 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ok I can add Harding . And also Hoover was conservative but i wanted to save space here . As you know right before these was the progressive era and Woodrow Wilson a progressive statist .


19 posted on 12/08/2016 10:29:18 PM PST by rurgan (Trump and Reagan are the only 2 politiicians to EVER have reduced Gov Regulations)
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To: Arthur McGowan
He was opposing Woodrow Wilson before him a progressive marxist
20 posted on 12/08/2016 10:30:14 PM PST by rurgan (Trump and Reagan are the only 2 politiicians to EVER have reduced Gov Regulations)
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