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ELECTORS SUE TO BE FREED FROM VOTING ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR STATES
Minute Man News ^ | December 8, 2016

Posted on 12/08/2016 1:57:43 PM PST by NYer

Just like that – these “electors,” who were elected to a job where they knew the rules, now want to change the rules – because the candidate they personally preferred didn’t win.  WAAAAAHHHH!  I didn’t get my way, so we have to change the rules.

Essentially, they’re asking to make irrelevant the votes of more than half the voters  in their states – because they’re unhappy.  

If electors are just going to vote their personal preference, then why even hold a national vote?

The Washington Times reports – Two members of the Electoral College pledged to support Hillary Clinton have filed a lawsuit intended to undo the presidential-election victory of Donald Trump.

Polly Baca and Robert Nemanich, two electors in Colorado, filed their lawsuit in federal court Tuesday challenging the validity of state laws requiring members of the Electoral College to vote for the winner of the popular vote in their states, according to the Denver Post.

The two are casting themselves as “moral electors” who want to “vote their conscience and do their constitutional duty as intended by the framers,” said attorney Jason Wesoky.

Should they win their long-shot lawsuit, it will have no effect in Colorado — Mrs. Clinton won the state and its nine Electoral College votes. But similar laws in other states that voted for Mr. Trump would also be invalid, meaning all 538 members of the Electoral College could vote for whomever they wished — at least potentially undoing the result of the election.

Read More:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: clinton; colorado; election; electoralcollege; electors; hillary; trump
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To: DoughtyOne

:)


41 posted on 12/08/2016 2:28:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

“:^)


42 posted on 12/08/2016 2:29:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: NYer
The two are casting themselves as “moral electors” who ant to “vote their conscience" and do their constitutional duty as intended by the framers,” said attorney Jason Wesoky.

Sounds like barratry and conspiracy to me.

First of all, if the framers intended to apply that absurd assertion, they failed to place it in the body of the Constitution or anywhere in the Federalist papers. They labored over those documents for 15 years!

I have failed to find "vote their conscience" and "popular vote" anywhere in the Constitution.

Further, very clearly, so that even idiots can understand it, all rules for citizenship and elections are the Sole Power of the States, and reinforced by the Ninth Amendment.

No common bill, passed by any bicameral Congress can eliminate or expand on the Constitutional limited enumerated powers.

That's what the clear Amendment process is for.

43 posted on 12/08/2016 2:30:36 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Snowflakes. They knew the rules going in.


44 posted on 12/08/2016 2:31:00 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo."--Donald Trump)
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To: NYer

I don’t see where they would have standing to contest a law which wouldn’t affect their votes, unless they said they wanted to vote for Stein or some write-in. Plaintiffs must show a personal interest in the suit in order to assure the court they have a real interest in winning the case. You generally have to show real injury to have standing. This is why Michigan stopped the recount for Stein, because she couldn’t show she would have a personal gain from overturning the vote.


45 posted on 12/08/2016 2:33:01 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: clintonh8r

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46 posted on 12/08/2016 2:33:02 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (What we tolerate today, our children will embrace tomorrow)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SgtHooper
No, I meant the right. After all, it is the right that is calling for Article V so they can institute term limits, and here on the state level in CO, the right was so pissed that recreational pot made it onto the ballot, that they pushed an amendment this year to make it harder to make amendments to the state Constitution.

The right don't like big government, unless it's THEIR big government.

47 posted on 12/08/2016 2:34:03 PM PST by dware (I love waking up in a world with President-elect Trump!)
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To: NYer

the answer is NO vote as you are obligated to do...and then give up your assignment....you are worthless.


48 posted on 12/08/2016 2:34:06 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!!!)
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To: dware
Typical of the right. Don't like the results? Change the rules. See Article V, term limits, etc

Methinks that your senility meds need to be increased, honey...

It's the Left that's doing all of the unhinged whining.

49 posted on 12/08/2016 2:34:51 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: clintonh8r
When did Colorado get so effedup?

the minute that California residents came pouring in.....they are tying to change Colorado into the hellhole that they just escaped from......amazing !!!

50 posted on 12/08/2016 2:36:41 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!!!)
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To: mlo
If it is ruled that these laws are unconstitutional then that would apply everywhere.

I think that would be true only if it were so decided by the Supreme Court. A decision by the federal court in Colorado would cover only Colorado; an appeal would go to whatever circuit Colorado is in and would cover only that circuit.

51 posted on 12/08/2016 2:38:08 PM PST by maryz
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To: House Atreides
I would expect it to be thrown out. Federal courts should have no jurisdiction over what is explicitly the province of the States alone.
52 posted on 12/08/2016 2:39:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: publius911
It's the Left that's doing all of the unhinged whining.

Sure, NOW they are, but prior to the election, there's been far too much whining and moaning about term limits, an issue the right USED to be strongly opposed to.

53 posted on 12/08/2016 2:39:45 PM PST by dware (I love waking up in a world with President-elect Trump!)
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To: mlo

“The Constitution puts the method of selecting electors in the hands of the states, but it doesn’t say states can dictate what the electors do. “

Yes it does because states can demand that electoral selection is contingent upon the elector being faithful to the will of the people. Several states actually have this encoded in law. Unfaithful electors will be removed and replaced. So yes, states can and do dictate what the electors must do.


54 posted on 12/08/2016 2:40:55 PM PST by pjd
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To: clintonh8r

Well all the idiots who screwed up CA left and brought their idiot children with them.


55 posted on 12/08/2016 2:42:32 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Trump discriminates against non-successful people.)
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To: NYer

I hope Polly and Robert understand that they will have to go home one day.

5.56mm


56 posted on 12/08/2016 2:43:30 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Crucial
Then there’s no purpose in having electors

You must have a different version of the U.S. Constitution than I do, Skippy...

To further clarify things, THE HISTORIC CONSTITUTIONAL HAND GRENADE, THE 17TH AMENDMENT, MUST BE REPEALED.

57 posted on 12/08/2016 2:44:58 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Some people are very confused.

If you can't see what they're doing, you're among the confused. They want to weaken the link between the results of a statewide election and the electoral college. Look past 2016, my friend. It is very obvious.

58 posted on 12/08/2016 2:46:38 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: clintonh8r

“When did Colorado get so effedup?”

Well, Colorado has been marching to a different drummer for decades, but all the transplants from California over the past 30 years have sent it over the edge.


59 posted on 12/08/2016 2:49:13 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: NYer

When YOU, Dear Elector, go to the voting booth on election day, you have the right and responsibility to vote how ever you want, for whatever reasons are important to YOU.

But, when you vote as an ELECTOR, you are there to represent the PEOPLE of your state, and THEIR will because you go as a representative. You are not there for just YOURSELF.

>>>>They both say Trump and Pence are not qualified. <<<<

What are the Constitutional qualifications for President? Those are the only qualifications you, as an elector, need to concern yourself with.


60 posted on 12/08/2016 2:57:10 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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