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Syrian troops enter Aleppo's Old City, poised for war's biggest victory
Reuters ^ | December 6th, 2016 | By John Davison and Stephanie Nebehay | BEIRUT/GENEVA

Posted on 12/06/2016 7:10:47 PM PST by Mariner

Syria's army and allies pushed into rebel-held parts of Aleppo's Old City on Tuesday, a monitoring group said, looking closer than ever to achieving their most important victory of the five-year-old civil war by driving rebels out of their last urban stronghold.

A rebel official said they would never abandon Aleppo, after reports that U.S. and Russian diplomats were preparing to discuss the surrender and evacuation of insurgents from territory they have held for years.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said talks with the United States on a rebel withdrawal would begin in Geneva as soon as Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning. But sources familiar with the plans later told Reuters no talks would take place this week in the Swiss city.

The rebels, who controlled large parts of eastern Aleppo for nearly five years, have lost around two thirds of their territory in the city over the past two weeks.

Government forces entered rebel-held parts of the Old City late on Tuesday, the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group reported. A rebel official denied they had entered but said the army and its allies were trying to enter and battles continued.

A military source said troops were "advancing in that direction".

The government now appears closer to victory in the city than at any point since 2012, the year after rebels took up arms to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad in a war that has killed hundreds of thousands of people, made more than half of Syrians homeless and created the world's worst refugee crisis.

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It seems both the US and Russia believes the US has control over the Jihadi head-chopper "rebels".

What a horrible crime we have committed, by proxy to Obama.

1 posted on 12/06/2016 7:10:47 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Are these good rebels or bad rebels who are being driven from Aleppo? I guess we need to ask Juan McCain for an authoritative answer.


2 posted on 12/06/2016 7:17:36 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Both.


3 posted on 12/06/2016 7:18:44 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Will88

But then again who can tell the difference anymore?


4 posted on 12/06/2016 7:19:28 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Will88
Are these good rebels or bad rebels who are being driven from Aleppo?

"At this point, what difference does it make"

5 posted on 12/06/2016 7:22:28 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Mariner

Still not sick of winning...


6 posted on 12/06/2016 7:22:44 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: vladimir998
There was never a difference.
7 posted on 12/06/2016 7:22:51 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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please let this tragic crime end soon and please hope we are forgiven for our role in creating this senseless slaughter


8 posted on 12/06/2016 7:23:08 PM PST by vooch
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the surrender and evacuation of insurgents

Why would ANYONE want to evacuate an Islamic militant any farther than the nearest concrete wall?

9 posted on 12/06/2016 7:24:02 PM PST by PAR35
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But then again who can tell the difference anymore?

If anyone could ever tell the difference, and many of them seemed to change from from time to time. Time for some Americans to admit that a secular dictator is probably the best they can hope for in many Muslim nations.

They've hopefully learned that after watching Obama and Hillary screw things up for eight years.

10 posted on 12/06/2016 7:25:01 PM PST by Will88
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“Why would ANYONE want to evacuate an Islamic militant any farther than the nearest concrete wall?”

Turkey wants them back.


11 posted on 12/06/2016 7:25:33 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I was just about to say the same thing. Evacuate them? Why do that when you can kill them more easily.


12 posted on 12/06/2016 7:28:22 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Are these good rebels

What an inane question. All rebel factions are one form of Islamist or another. At different points in the war, groups of fighters moved between one faction and another.

The only faction that never bothered the Christian enclaves has been Assad's government. He is no prize either though.

There is no good faction here. The United States never had any compelling reason to back any flavor of Mohammedan theocrats who were guaranteed to be no better than Iranian theocrats.

In case you haven't clued in - the only good people in the region are the Christian enclaves (Which were damned important if you were a western worker trying to get out of the middle east in previous periods of Muslim wars) and they aren't running around attacking anyone anywhere.

13 posted on 12/06/2016 7:33:31 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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What an inane question.

What's inane is the fact that you missed the sarcasm, and that you chop off part of the sarcasm and take off on a wild tangent. But I still contend that only Juan McCain can answer the question definitively.

14 posted on 12/06/2016 7:37:30 PM PST by Will88
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Fine. Give the bodies back to Turkey coated with pig fat.


15 posted on 12/06/2016 7:49:21 PM PST by PAR35
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“Turkey wants them back.”

Big developments today. Turkey was convoying tanks across the border toward al Bab (North East Suburb of Aleppo), when they can under air attack, killing Turkish soldiers. That is a first, and risks an open war with Turkey.

Turkey may have been/is planning to push through to relieve the rebels in Aleppo, or just to grab al Bab before things settle out. Whatever their purpose, it looks like the Syrian regime and/or its allies have put down their foot, and raised the stakes.


16 posted on 12/06/2016 7:49:49 PM PST by BeauBo
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McCain, Graham and Rubio helped arm those headchoppers.

Don’t neglect to give them the “credit” they are due.


17 posted on 12/06/2016 7:56:52 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: Mariner

Let these “rebels” go and they’ll live to start another Jihad.


18 posted on 12/06/2016 7:59:38 PM PST by Lent
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“Big developments today.”

You’re right, that’s huge. Have a link so I can read about that?

I believe Turkey will simply back off. They are not crazy enough to extend air cover to their armor...against the Russian Air Force and Russian S-400s on the ground. And they most certainly have not crossed into full insanity which would allow them to send a full armored division or two.


19 posted on 12/06/2016 8:05:56 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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http://en.hawarnews.com/warplanes-strike-turkish-army-gangs-north-of-al-bab/

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b19_1481070558&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


20 posted on 12/06/2016 8:26:28 PM PST by BeauBo
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