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Officials fear up to 40 dead in fire during concert at Oakland warehouse
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-oakland-fire-nine-dead-warehouse-20161203-story.html ^ | December 3, 2016 | Russ Mitchell, Peter H. King, Liam Dillon, Tracey Lien and Paige St. John

Posted on 12/03/2016 5:31:31 PM PST by Navy Patriot

Authorities said they were preparing to deal with dozens of fatalities after a fire raced through a converted warehouse crowded with people attending a Friday night concert, officials said.

Nine bodies have been recovered, but Alameda County sheriff’s Sgt. Ray Kelly said officials were prepared for up to 40 fatalities. He said many of those inside the warehouse were young, some from foreign countries.

Firefighters were beginning to move through the burned-out remains of the building looking for victims. The building’s roof caved in, and debris will make the search effort difficult, Kelly said.

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TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; deathtoll; fire; oakland; searchworks; trap
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To: sparklite2

It’s not unreasonable. Entertainment usually comes with alcohol, and power consumption. In many of the old factory buildings in MA, that would be enough to burn the place down. The electric systems are 100 years old in some of these places.


41 posted on 12/03/2016 6:53:28 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Just checked the headlines at SFgate.com

Didn’t have permits,

Owner wrote a controversial post.

Prayers for those affected.


42 posted on 12/03/2016 6:59:02 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: BeadCounter
Just checked the headlines at SFgate.com

Disinfect your computer.

43 posted on 12/03/2016 7:00:49 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Navy Patriot
Disinfect your computer.

Shooting the messenger.

44 posted on 12/03/2016 7:05:04 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: BeadCounter

Anyway, the owner did write something like “everything I worked for has gone up in flames”. That came off callous. I’m not sure if he even mentioned those who lost their lives and his children were safe in a hotel. They lived at that place it sounds like.

They didn’t have permits.

Derick Ion is the name of the owner. I’ve never heard of that last name before. Obviously, he’ll be sued big time.


45 posted on 12/03/2016 7:08:58 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The dirty little secret in Kalifornia is that hardly anyone obeys the laws or regulations. This is what happens when you over burden the populace with regulations and laws. They ignore even the good laws and regulations. The owner however, appears to have lacked the compassion or liability sense, to make the place safe. He is done for life now.


46 posted on 12/03/2016 7:27:14 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Robert DeLong

I looked at all the pictures of that place; I am not the Fire Marshall, but I would have had that place closed up and a “KEEP OUT, DERELICT BUILDING” sign posted on it.
Every city official, inspector and politician should be held personally responsible for the loss of life and sued into bankruptcy, then jailed for complicity.


47 posted on 12/03/2016 9:01:02 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Rebelbase

And then the MSM would just say just a bunch of REDNECKS doing something stupid, to bad so sad.


48 posted on 12/03/2016 9:03:08 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

I think they were cited several times.


49 posted on 12/03/2016 9:04:35 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: 5th MEB
Every city official, inspector and politician should be held personally responsible

but silly young irresponsible residents should have known better.

And their parents should have been there and insisted that they move.

50 posted on 12/03/2016 9:05:59 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: PLMerite

It was reported around 70 to 100 people attended the “rave”, not exactly a large “rave” crowd by any standard

I guess the pics are of the first and second floor, by what I have read, the 2nd floor was built illegally, without permits or building plans. The city did flag it and the owner was suppose to address it. I guess he didn’t do anything since his last fire inspection.

It is sad because a fire alarm and a sprinkler system, I know, they are not cheap by any standard, would have saved people. Plus building to code and installing proper stairways and exits would have saved people as well.

Its sad to see that people lost there lives over someone’s pure negligence. It is like the owner did not even bother to even try to comply with codes.


51 posted on 12/03/2016 9:09:28 PM PST by arl295
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Does anyone else see the irony?

CA is regulated to death with building, fire, and environmental codes. Yet these alt-artists types managed to convert an abandoned warehouse into their own little utopia and no one on the city council or in Sacramento batted an eyelash.


Yes, extremely ironic. I'll bet there are 30,000 more regulations now than when the regulations preventing this type of tragedy were written.
52 posted on 12/03/2016 9:10:42 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRISON, 2020!)
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To: arl295
...It is sad because a fire alarm and a sprinkler system, I know, they are not cheap by any standard, would have saved people...

Having recently paid for building a house in CA, I can tell you that 99% of the lives saved in fires are the result of smoke alarms -- a relatively inexpensive system.

The requirement for sprinklers is driven by insurance companies. Sprinklers will save enough of the structure so that it can be repaired instead of replaced. This limits insurance company payouts and is greatly beneficial to them. Frequently, the owner of a building is better off with a total loss and a rebuild rather than a repair.

53 posted on 12/03/2016 9:24:40 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: arl295

“The city did flag it and the owner was suppose to address it.”

My guess is that unless the owner died in the fire, he’s going to jail. Maybe some city inspector types, too.


54 posted on 12/03/2016 9:28:51 PM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: PLMerite
My guess is that unless the owner died in the fire, he’s going to jail.

The owner is alive and well and lamenting the loss of his business on Facebook. The commenters on his thread are furious with him, and a lot of apparent insider stuff is becoming public there. I get the impression that the owner is in hiding.

55 posted on 12/04/2016 8:46:43 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Navy Patriot; All
He (Isis spokesman) gave specifics on how to attack Westerners and them feel insecure; "Hunt them wherever they may be. Turn their worldly life into fear and fire. .. "

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/22/world/meast/isis-threatens-west/

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Not this fire probably, but too many unusual fires across America

Fires are an excellent way to cause massive death and destruction and strike fear into the hearts of Americans

Easy to do, hard to determine the cause...

56 posted on 12/04/2016 9:21:51 AM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type) Thrilled we won! Donald will give us our country back!)
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To: Riley

They’ll root him out.

I can’t imagine how anyone could allow people to occupy such a dangerous building. It’s one thing if you have a junky antique shop, but that mess...


57 posted on 12/04/2016 9:37:43 AM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: Robert DeLong

Hey, I’m no hippy pole smoker, but I thought your photo you posted was pretty neat.

Bad art is still art!


58 posted on 12/06/2016 12:34:20 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (Normal people do not play dominoes on pizza.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

I do like the rug!!! LOL. The rickety stairs actually remind me of this old house I lived in back in the day. There were about 6 of us living there. The only good thing is it cost us nothing because the father of one of the guys living there was the owner. You always felt like they were going to collapse at any moment. I think I ended up staying there for like 3 or 4 months, before I convinced myself I had to get a place that was more habitable. But it was fun for awhile!!!


59 posted on 12/06/2016 1:34:39 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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