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Yes, you can blame millennials in Pa. and elsewhere for Clinton's loss
Wash Post via Philly.com ^ | 12/3/2016 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 12/03/2016 9:39:47 AM PST by dirtboy

Hillary Clinton's campaign has lots of excuses for losing. There's the electoral college, James Comey, the media's alleged over-exuberance in digging into Clinton's email server, etc. But Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said Thursday that one particular group is especially to blame: millennials.

As Karen Tumulty and Philip Rucker reported from the big election postmortem at Harvard on Thursday night:

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook also acknowledged that her operation had made a number of mistakes and miscalculations, while being buffeted by what he repeatedly described as a "headwind" of being an establishment candidate in a season where voters were anxious for change.

He noted, for example, that younger voters, perhaps assuming that Clinton was going to win, migrated to third-party candidates in the final days of the race.

Where the campaign needed to win upward of 60 percent of young voters, it was able to garner something "in the high 50s at the end of the day," Mook said. "That's why we lost."

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blamegame; clinton; election2016; electoralcollege; hillary; hillary2016; millenials; millennials; pa2016; thirdparty; youthvote
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Trump’s message wasn’t just words. It had a spirit, or Spirit, in it.

You are absolutely correct! I have often thought of Trump as the alpha male version of Esther who was born "for such a time as this". I will always consider his decision to run, the entire campaign, and his victory as a manifestation of the power of God to use imperfect humans to accomplish his perfect will.

61 posted on 12/03/2016 11:20:09 AM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: dirtboy

62 posted on 12/03/2016 11:20:29 AM PST by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: dirtboy

Millenials should be blamed. Social Justice Warriors are one of the big reasons I held my nose in the end. These fascists needed to lose and they did.


63 posted on 12/03/2016 11:26:03 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time. I hope I don't regret this.)
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To: dirtboy

I get the feeling millennial males were the clincher. Hillary represented that absent working mother, but without a conscience.


64 posted on 12/03/2016 11:32:19 AM PST by Crucial
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To: dirtboy
Yes, you can blame millennial in Pa. and elsewhere for Clinton's loss

Just one millennial?

Who is this one awesome person?

65 posted on 12/03/2016 11:32:20 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: dirtboy

They kept going to colleges to make it appear she could get crowds, their fault.

Bottom line is that the reason she lost is because she never had a message other than Trump is racist. Trump is sexist. Trump is a muslim hater, and she is a woman to break the glass ceiling.

That is all she had.
She could not run on foreign policy as it is a mess
She could not run on obamacare as it is a failure.
She tried to have immigration, but most do not want open borders.
She could not run on the economy as this is the slowest recovery .

Bottom line is she had no policy message, and was lazy, or too sick to do enough rallies


66 posted on 12/03/2016 11:32:22 AM PST by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: dirtboy

I also think that millennial males are fed up with selfish, militant feminism. They’re tired of being beat down.


67 posted on 12/03/2016 11:33:38 AM PST by Crucial
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To: dirtboy

Maybe choosing an arrogant, smirking, fruit cake as a campaign manager was not such a great idea.


68 posted on 12/03/2016 11:34:17 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: dirtboy

*sigh* One more time Hillary. You lost because America is tired of liberal elites in media and politics looking disdainfully at America. America was tired of gender/race based politics. We were tired of Obama’s disgust with the country he was chosen to lead and his insistence that islam become a part of what makes up America. We were tired of your media, Hillary, that covered up the wreckage hussein wrought upon this country, and that you promised to continue.

We were tired of you and yours championing homosexual behavior and demanding we embrace it. Tired of a stagnant economy and joblessness and media claims as to how good it is. We were tired of your deviant husband and your daughter. Tired, too, of Huma, who was probably leaking classified info to the MB via the security clearance you gave her. America is sick and tired of your corruption and immorality, and your continued getting away with it.

Lastly, Hillary, we are tired of you..


69 posted on 12/03/2016 11:38:32 AM PST by cardinal4 ("Sat stonefaced while the building burned..")
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To: goldstategop
A normal Democrat could have won it in a walk.

Hmmm ... Who would they have nominated? Tim Kaine certainly wouldn't have won if he'd been at the top of the ticket.

The "crooked Hillary" thing affected the whole shape of the campaign. If Hillary hadn't been the nominee, what would the candidates have talked about?

Would Donald Trump even have been the GOP nominee? So much of the campaign revolved around voters being sick of Clintons and Bushes. With her out of the race, that whole aspect would have been absent and the cycle would have spun off in another direction.

In any case, the people who actually got the election winner right generally based their predictions on the economy, so the Democrats had a weakness that went beyond Hillary Clinton.

70 posted on 12/03/2016 11:42:57 AM PST by x
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To: srmorton
You are absolutely correct! I have often thought of Trump as the alpha male version of Esther who was born "for such a time as this". I will always consider his decision to run, the entire campaign, and his victory as a manifestation of the power of God to use imperfect humans to accomplish his perfect will.

I know this is hard to wrap your mind around, but Obama's two terms were also the result God using imperfect humans to accomplish his will. Same with Clinton back in the 90s.

71 posted on 12/03/2016 11:57:15 AM PST by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: shhrubbery!

Myself about 21. . . I had just converted so my values underwent a radical change.

I don’t know about that “heart” quote. . . I think conservatives are far more compassionate. We deal with reality. Perhaps the young don’t have a good enough grip on reality, for the most part.


72 posted on 12/03/2016 1:03:27 PM PST by Persevero (NUTS)
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To: dirtboy

Mook is the new Bob Shrum.


73 posted on 12/03/2016 1:15:25 PM PST by Bridesheadfan ( S)
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To: dirtboy

Only one person is responsible for Clinton’s loss. Hillery Clinton herself!


74 posted on 12/03/2016 1:47:19 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We should be focused on destroying the rat party and replacing them with the libertarians. At least they’re a tolerable opposition party.


75 posted on 12/03/2016 3:29:10 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Right versus left is no longer as relevant as Nationalist versus globalist.)
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To: dodger

Yup. The normal democrat is pretty much extinct. You see an occasional one like Jim Webb or Joe Manchin. But outside of a very few, the rats hunted us to the threshold of extinction. There aren’t enough left to matter.

The rat party must be destroyed.


76 posted on 12/03/2016 3:45:41 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Right versus left is no longer as relevant as Nationalist versus globalist.)
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To: dirtboy
This is a deflection to not call out the Amish. Pure and simple.

Mook cannot prove that Millenials voting for perhaps only the 2nd time would/would not have Cankled; or Berned Cankles, or whatever. That data is not clear yet.

Mook is, however, at least self-aware enough to have referenced this conundrum in a different interview -- that determining the parameters expressed above will require the requisite big-data deep-dive in 2017 (and I will be right there figuring out how to use the same data to Trump's advantage).

But the Amish data is clear, self-evident, without contradiction.

77 posted on 12/03/2016 4:21:29 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Protocol: "President Trump"; subsequent references "The President" or "Pres. Trump". NO "POTUS")
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To: StAnDeliver

It will be far less possible to amass deep data in 2017 than it was this year.

Because now voters know refusing to accept calls or to answer polls stymied the propagandists. Before that approach was theoretical. Now it has born dividends.


78 posted on 12/03/2016 4:27:42 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: shhrubbery!
"He who is not a liberal when young does not have a heart.
He who is not a conservative when old does not have a brain."

Dang, guess I've always been all brain and no heart.

79 posted on 12/03/2016 4:52:50 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (Folks ask about my politics. I say: I dont belong to any organized political party. I'm a Republican)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Re your comment about birds voting: As a very young kid, the first political joke I ever remember hearing, was told by my Dad during the 1960 election --- Two birds sitting on a branch, and one asks the other who he favors in the election. The other one answers, "Why, I'm for Kennedy! After all, he's for us!"

(ie, "for the birds")

80 posted on 12/03/2016 5:07:25 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (Folks ask about my politics. I say: I dont belong to any organized political party. I'm a Republican)
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