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Trump, Finally Explained (Trump, A Dunce Like Reagan)
New York Times ^ | 12/03/2016 | Gail Collins

Posted on 12/03/2016 1:21:32 AM PST by goldstategop

Some of you may find it disturbing that one of Trump’s chief apologists was basically saying that he talks policy like a drunk at happy hour. Some of you may hear Trump constantly contradicting today what he said yesterday and decide he’s an idiot.

From now on I’m going to try to think of him as a little bit like my dog, Frieda. Frieda is extremely intelligent, but her memory is only good for about 90 seconds.

When you listen to Trump’s Inaugural Address, or his first State of the Union, keep reminding yourself that he’s reserving the right to forget everything he’s said as soon as he says it. No way we can believe him long term. Unless he tattoos it on his arm.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dunce; gailcollins; newyorktimes; reagan; trump
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41 posted on 12/03/2016 3:40:34 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: goldstategop

Trump is no dunce, but he may lack a certain sort of “smartness” nevertheless (and that may be a good thing). I like Adam Carolla and listen to his podcast quite a bit. He almost never spends time on politics, but he did make on comment on Trump that caught my attention. Corolla had been a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice a few years back (and was eliminated in round 4). As Trump was rising in the primaries, Carolla said that he didn’t quite get it, because Trump didn’t seem smart enough to him to be President. Adam said that he was in day-to-day contact with Trump for the weeks he was a contestant and that he liked Trump but that Trump had never said anything striking or memorable, never delivered the sort of insight that would lead Carolla to say, “Wow, I never thought of things that way.” In other words, Trump was competent enough, but not the sort of person that would strike Carolla as “brilliant”.
People talk about projection, and this may be a case in point. Adam Carolla is clever, but probably not “brilliant”. He did very poorly in school, primarily because he never really learned to read well. He went from community college to working low level construction jobs and carpet cleaning, and then parlayed a “class clown” persona into a career as a radio and television host. He laboriously overcame his dyslexia because it became a requirement of his job. He is well known for “ranting”, complaining about a small number of pet issues, such as Los Angeles traffic, and seldom says anything new and striking. His podcast is formulaic, but it appeals to me and a lot of other listeners. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that he has sized up Trump accurately. Trump’s “ordinariness” in intellectual terms (even though his life history and business career are about as non-ordinary as they come) could be the explanation why Trump appeals to ordinary voters and why those who consider themselves “elite” just don’t get it. Trump (and to a lesser extent Carolla) may have tremendous talents that allow them to be very successful while lacking in “book smarts”.


42 posted on 12/03/2016 3:48:11 AM PST by Stirner
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To: goldstategop

I’ll take one Trump who babbles BS occasionally but gets the job done over a Muslim traitor who installs a shadow government to take over the U.S., destroy and take over it any day.


43 posted on 12/03/2016 3:49:02 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Your failing is making the assumption that listening is the problem. They are listening but their own self importance is never challenged.

The only way to knock them off their elitist post is to question, key word here, their foundation.

First is you have to ask questions they are totally unprepared to answer. Then when they fall back on their talking points to sound intellectual, you hit them with the one thing they are totally unprepared for, laugh at them and then walk away still snickering.

Then their rage starting with the typical name calling will boil over. You duck the first punch, stick, cell phone, latte or whatever is in their hands. Roundhouse them and while they are counting the stars, stand over them and say;

My momma taught me that sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. First shot was the defensive jolt they have never realized, the second is that you just reminded them they are still a spoiled brat. Then you continue on snickering.

As for Trump and the adolescent minded media brats, he has his Twitter account that goes everywhere but through them. Gab is going to overtake Twitter but whatever the medium, he will continue to do just that and relegate the legacy media to the dustbin of history. A new age is upon us and like in nature, the dying beast is at its worst just before the animal assumes room temperature.


44 posted on 12/03/2016 3:54:52 AM PST by mazda77
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To: goldstategop

“Ditto for the smartest woman in the world, Hillary Clinton, who lost an election she should have won.”

TWICE!


45 posted on 12/03/2016 3:55:54 AM PST by mazda77
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To: goldstategop
Liberals were so schizophrenic when it came to Reagan. On the one hand he was a bumbling simpleton, on the other hand he was a sophisticated mastermind of Iran-Contra, etc.

SNL had a skit that exactly nailed how they viewed Reagan:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/president-reagan-mastermind/n9509

46 posted on 12/03/2016 3:56:13 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: goldstategop

How did such a simpleton defeat the smartest woman on the planet? (I’m betting the NYTimes answer would be that the American people are just too stupid to realize how smart she is.)


47 posted on 12/03/2016 3:56:41 AM PST by Flick Lives (Les Deplorables Triumphant)
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To: goldstategop

Yep, the liberals have broken from the pack and their identity is crystal clear.


48 posted on 12/03/2016 4:00:03 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: dowcaet

Collins hangs out with lefties and thinks like a lefty. If you look at her photos online you can see she has a real weight problem going from one extreme to the next so you know she probably has a lot of hormonal problems and is probably unstable (I know I don’t have to explain it to anyone here who’s married...lol).


49 posted on 12/03/2016 4:00:29 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: goldstategop

I remember back in the 80’s when SNL did a skit about Reagan. They showed him as an amiable dunce in public, with kind of a goofy expression on his face, doing silly photo ops with kids, etc.

Then he’d go into the next room and his whole persona would change, standing up straighter, serious expression, etc. He’d take off his coat, roll up his sleeves, and be deep in planning special ops, hardline negotiating with Russia, and more.

Then it was back out for another photo op and he was the dunce again.

Hilarious, and probably much truer than they really thought.

Personally I see Trump much the same way.


50 posted on 12/03/2016 4:03:52 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: pepsionice

“The New York Times, Finally Explained”

Do you remember “Joseph Goebbels”? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0324305/ It was a documentary movie about a propaganda master who woke up every morning dreaming about how he could rewrite the events of the day that went before to increase the power of the socialist state.

I am thinking it’s the perfect New York Times analogy.

In the past, I’ve always presumed that when the Times completely changed its position on health care or the Mexican wall or nuclear weapons in Japan, it was due to craven political opportunism. But it’s much more calming to work under the assumption that liberals don’t remember anything that happened before this morning if they have been told to forget.

Think about it next time you hear a NYT writer criticizing President Trump as racist for wanting a border wall: “racism and xenophobia and fear of those dark people who don’t talk like us.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/opinion/sunday/the-wall-is-a-fantasy.html In 2006, when Hillary Clinton voted for the 700 mile border fence, the NYT criticized the fence as not long enough. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/washington/30cong.html

It’s stupendously irritating, unless you work under the assumption that liberals accept whatever their approved propaganda organ says today and no longer recall the real story.

All month, the NYT was trying to revive Hillary’s defeated campaign in every story, where anything President Trump does is automatically wrong, even if the NYT supported it when Biden, Hillary, or another liberal did the same thing. President Trump made a mistake talking with the Taiwanese leader, President Trump will be unable to repeal Obamacare, President Trump has seduced and betrayed Americans, President Trump’s trade policies will hurt Americans, and President Trump is choosing the wealthy for his cabinet – all of that at the top of their online front page today. http://www.nytimes.com/

I wonder if the NY Times is being sarcastic, because this ship has sailed. The election was weeks ago, and President Trump won.

But no, the NYT is still cheering for the recount efforts and for faithless electors. Even after a month ago claiming that refusing to accept election results was tantamount to treason.

What a surprise for NYT! Who then felt they needed to deliver, and then made a call to failed fringe candidate Jill Stein.

Nobody believes Stein’s story about having concerns about hacking of voting machines that are not even online. No American election with as large a margin as President Trump received has ever been overturned in a recount, not that facts matter to the liberal newspaper of record for all coordinated propaganda efforts.

But the bottom line is that this formerly great paper is entirely a creature of the far left fringe. So much so that its writers had no problem wiping numerous well publicized campaign positions from their memory the second the election results were in.

From now on I’m going to try to think of their ethics as a little bit like my dog, Spot. Spot was wonderful and loyal, but she died 40 years ago.

When you read Trump stories on the NYT front page, or their many future anti-Trump editorials, keep reminding yourself that they’re reserving the right to forget everything they have said as soon as they are proven wrong. Their ethics died 40 years ago and are completely forgotten by almost everyone. No way we can believe the Times long term. All the news that’s fit – they no longer print.


51 posted on 12/03/2016 4:11:41 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: dowcaet

If Frieda the dog had opposable thumbs she’d have Gail Collins’s job.


52 posted on 12/03/2016 4:14:33 AM PST by Stosh
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To: mazda77

THRICE if one takes into account the need to cheat to beat a schlub like Sanders.


53 posted on 12/03/2016 4:17:07 AM PST by Stosh
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To: goldstategop

Wait a minute, didn’t the NYT say a couple of weeks ago that they were going to go back to actually reporting accurately?

It really seems that CNN and NYT, in particularly, have decided that the reason Trump won is that they didn’t call him “racist” and “stupid” enough, so they are doubling down on the name calling.

Trump has every right in the world to go after these lowlife, bottom-feeders, for the liars and deceivers that they really are.


54 posted on 12/03/2016 4:17:30 AM PST by euram
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To: euram

Do you see any reporting going on there? Nope, just relegated to op-eds. They have no idea where to find the truth so it is not reported on.


55 posted on 12/03/2016 4:22:09 AM PST by mazda77
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To: chaosagent

It wasn’t just Reagan. The NYT and other lib outlets portrayed Ford and Bush as stupid. Even all the way back to Eisenhower who was, according to liberals, no match for Stevenson’s superior intellect and who would rather golf than govern. Liberals never change...


56 posted on 12/03/2016 4:26:00 AM PST by Russ
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To: goldstategop
Back in the 80s, Reagan was a liberal punchline because he was a B movie actor. He was Bozo like in one of his movies.

Bonzo

57 posted on 12/03/2016 4:26:33 AM PST by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: apillar

....and, in the process, made the old grey lady irrelevant.


58 posted on 12/03/2016 4:28:10 AM PST by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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To: goldstategop

Why is it our “dunces” do so much more good for the People and even for the world, than their “geniuses”?


59 posted on 12/03/2016 4:28:59 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: goldstategop

My favorite bit is the correction at the end of the column. Apparently Ms. Collins couldn’t remember the premise of the movie she was quoting to make her point about Trump’s poor memory.


60 posted on 12/03/2016 4:31:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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