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The Trouble With Recounts in the Name of Hacking
Govtech.com ^ | 11-25-16 | Dan Lohrmann

Posted on 12/02/2016 2:21:48 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins

Jill Stein is raising plenty of money via her website to the pay for the government recount efforts in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan and for her legal support team. The recount process, deadlines, rules and process are clearly laid out by laws in each state. The process has formally begun in Wisconsin.

http://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/the-trouble-with-recounts-in-the-name-of-hacking.html

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1 posted on 12/02/2016 2:21:48 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

I know this is a Christian conservative forum but I so want to curse over this issue. Non stop obscenities.


2 posted on 12/02/2016 2:26:27 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

In the first day of recounting, Hillary gained 1 vote. The recount will be finished in 12 more days. At this rate, Hillary will win the presidency in 74 years


3 posted on 12/02/2016 2:26:45 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: realcleanguy
In the first day of recounting, Hillary gained 1 vote. The recount will be finished in 12 more days. At this rate, Hillary will win the presidency in 74 years

LOL, this is a Classic, did you make that up? Brilliant.

4 posted on 12/02/2016 2:35:46 PM PST by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Such lazy people...the information is all out on the internet if they would care to do their research.

First, WI uses paper ballots in the large urban areas, such as Dane and Milwaukee counties where these morons think vote fraud is most likely to have occurred (it didn’t).

The paper ballots that are now being recounted are run through an optical scanner. Here is the one in use at all Dane and Milwaukee County precincts:

http://www.essvote.com/products/13/1/Digital-Scan-Tabulators/ds200%C2%AE/

In rural less populated areas that don’t justify the optical scanner and for “accessible” voting, they use machines like this:

https://www.verifiedvoting.org/resources/voting-equipment/sequoia/avc-edge/

Read the description to understand how the smart card prevents multiple votes and other safeguards that are part of this system. Every electronic voting machine creates a paper record for audit and recount purposes. THe VeriVote printer displays a hardcopy only visible to the voter if desired so he/she can make sure their vote was entered correctly. Why these features are never described correctly by the hacking conspiracy theorists is a mystery to me.

NONE of these machines are connected to the internet.

Totals are communicated to the state election commission by telephone or fax.

There is no opportunity for “hacking”. Machines are tested and verified by multiple people before use. Of course there can be misreads - ballots that the machines can’t read - which will show up as undervotes (i.e. no vote for any candidate. These can be caught by a hand recount but since the statistical probability is the same that the machine won’t be able to read a ballot for Trump or Clinton, the undervotes should fall to approximately the same ratio as the overall vote split.

The Dane County clerk should have run the machine recount first, which would take 2 days. WHen it produced the same result that would have been it, so obviously they are doing the hand recount for no other reason than delaying the inevitable.

A complete listing of every machine in use at every Wisconsin municipality can be downloaded in pdf form here:

http://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/page/179/voting_equipment_by_municipality_09_2016_pdf_19011.pdf


5 posted on 12/02/2016 2:44:38 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: realcleanguy

And none for Stein? Time to call it done.


6 posted on 12/02/2016 2:47:07 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Guaranteed that much of those millions she is raising will be used as “incentives” to those involved in “counting.”


7 posted on 12/02/2016 2:57:30 PM PST by fwdude (Stronger, To Get Her)
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To: realcleanguy

....and probably won’t look a day older than she does today, that sexy thing!


8 posted on 12/02/2016 3:12:10 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Paradox

Heard it on an AM radio program while driving through Washington


9 posted on 12/02/2016 3:39:51 PM PST by realcleanguy
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Heard it on an AM radio program while driving through WashingtonWell I am giving you credit for introducing it to FR!
10 posted on 12/02/2016 3:50:42 PM PST by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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To: bigbob
IMHO, this is a coordinated effort to bypass the Electoral College.
  1. They only want to count the blue states that turned red -- the ones Hillary was supposed to win.
  2. I suspect the HFA campaign asked Jill Stein to initiate the recount effort. Jill has nothing to gain except for the $$$, she will never recover enough Green votes to be significant.
  3. States undertaking hand recounts may not be ready to certify before 19 December.
  4. Meanwhile, efforts continue to try to swing faithless electors to vote for Hillary.

And Pennsylvania could sink this whole strategy.

As it stands, PA, MI and WI have a combined total of 46 EVs. Subtracting that from Trump's earned total of 306 leaves 260, election goes to the US Congress.

Assumimg PA refuses to recount, throw Pennsy's 20 votes back in, Trump keeps 280. Done.

Am I missing anything here?

11 posted on 12/02/2016 4:30:56 PM PST by TechJunkYard (Trump THIS, Hill-baby!)
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To: TechJunkYard; LS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3500842/posts?page=13#13

H/t LS


12 posted on 12/02/2016 5:05:56 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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