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Clinton vs. Trump II, 2020
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2016 | Larry Elder

Posted on 12/01/2016 1:18:54 PM PST by Kaslin

Every sane person expects Green Party candidate Jill Stein's attempt to overturn the election with her vote recount effort to crash and burn. Given this, why would the Hillary Clinton campaign file a motion in support of a Stein-initiated request for a hand vote recount in Wisconsin?

Under the reasonable assumption that what's good for the Clintons is good for the Clintons, one is left with but one conclusion. Hillary Clinton's political death is premature. After the election, Donald Trump analysts, having seen the Clintons pull a raft of rabbits out of a hat, should know better. There is no such thing as the "end of the era of the Clintons."

With the Democrats' Trump Derangement Syndrome already in full bloom, and the clowns at MSNBC practically drafting articles of impeachment of President-elect Trump, Hillary Clinton expects the Trump presidency to be a disaster, or at least to be quasi-credibly attacked as such -- which is the same thing. Health permitting, she's gearing up for another shot in 2020. In fact, it's inaccurate to say "gearing up." She never stopped.

As usual, Clinton can count on a big assist by the major media that, for example, slams Trump for claiming that non-citizens voted while giving Stein/Clinton the soft treatment as they make similar assertions. When Trump balked at agreeing to accept the election results, Democrats and their media colluders dismissed concerns about voting integrity as "baseless" and "unsubstantiated."

Buoyed by her popular-vote margin of some two million over Republican winner Donald Trump and his slender, combined 100,000-vote margin in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Clinton no doubt feels that Clinton vs. Trump Round 1 was hers to lose. Next time, better advisers. And no more taking the Midwest for granted.

Stein's recount effort will not produce enough votes to change the outcome, but it will feed the narrative that Trump is an interloper, elected by "outside interference" or some other dark possibility. Credibility is irrelevant as long as it feels true to enough non-Trump voters. Only in America can Stein lavish praise on dictator Fidel Castro, who ran unopposed, while protesting the legitimacy of Trump's victory.

Sure, Clinton blasted Trump for asserting, during the last pre-election debate, that he would not commit to accepting the election results: "That's horrifying. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. ... This is? -- ?this is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it's funny, but it's also really troubling. So that is not the way our democracy works. We've been around for 240 years. We've had free and fair elections. We've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. ... Let's be clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating -- he is talking down our democracy. And I am appalled that someone who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that position."

But that was so October.

The shameless about-face on challenging the result was on full display when CNN's Wolf Blitzer questioned Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., who supports Stein's recount.

"Jill Stein is taking advantage of an existing provision in the law that allows you to ask for a recount and pay for it within a certain period of time," said Coons. "Donald Trump is undermining the whole concept that this was a free and fair election by suggesting that literally millions of illegal votes were cast for which there is absolutely no evidence."

"But," said Blitzer, "you would have been adamantly opposed to it if Donald Trump had lost the election and Hillary Clinton won and he was doing what she is doing right now."

"We were concerned," explained Coons, "what Donald Trump might do is refuse to accept the results, and challenge them -- not the way Jill Stein is doing within the boundaries of the law and within a time and process set out -- but by simply refusing to accept the results and inciting his supporters around the country." In other words, had Trump questioned the results, he would have gathered up a mob and passed out pitchforks, knives and guns. Stein uses lawyers.

As for Clinton's role in all of this, with apologies to Sarah Palin, she can see November 2020 from her Chappaqua front porch.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020elections; hillaryrottenclinton; jillstein; larryelder
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To: Kaslin

well let’s get on those ASAP. I think Bush’s Hispanic nephew will run for president in 2024. We can run regular update on him.


41 posted on 12/01/2016 2:44:02 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: thoughtomator

Jail? ha ha ha yeah, right.


42 posted on 12/01/2016 2:44:07 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Lurkinanloomin
She wants to be a three time loser.

No, she wants to be a two time winner, i.e., the comeback kid.

In 2008 Hillary lost the Dem nomination to Obama. She accepted the SecState post in 2008 to burnish her resume and then resigned in 2012 to concentrate on running for the Dem nomination in 2016

In 2016 Hillary won the Dem nomination for President. Her comeback victory from her loss in 2008.

In 2016 Hillary lost the Presidency to Donald Trump despite winning the popular vote by 2 million votes and receiving the third highest total of votes ever recorded by a Presidential candidate.

In 2020 Hillary returns for the rematch against Trump avowing to be the Comeback Kid and wins the WH becoming the first woman President her manifest destiny.

We need to put a stake thru the hearts of the Clintons. Sessions needs to prosecute her for selling favors and access thru the Clinton Foundation and for her gross negligence in handling classified material. Any one who thinks that Hillary (an Bill) will retire from the national stage is nuts. Hillary is planning a comeback, something I have said since the morning of her concession speech. Maybe no one noticed what she said (below), but I did,

Now, I know we have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling, but someday someone will — and hopefully sooner than we might think right now.

Trump gave her the compliment of being a fighter. I think she is totally obsessed. She reminds me of the Glenn Close role in Fatal Attraction.

43 posted on 12/01/2016 2:52:55 PM PST by kabar
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Oh, she will be alive and pushing for another run!


44 posted on 12/01/2016 2:55:34 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: SamAdams76

“They continue to focus on diversity for diversity sake.”

Diversity rules.

Competence drools.

/s


45 posted on 12/01/2016 3:01:34 PM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: Kaslin
And no more taking the Midwest for granted.

She could try having the convention in Cleveland.

46 posted on 12/01/2016 3:05:13 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Maybe have the convention in Columbus. She can call the cops deplorable!


47 posted on 12/01/2016 3:06:39 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Hillary is done, she’ll be lucky to live until 2020.

I was almost expecting Hillary to commit suicide on the morning Nov 9th, because she had so much invested emotionally in her sense of entitlement to the Presidency.

She may as well have, I think that the last we'll hear of her politically is her idiotic push for a recount using Jill Stein as her instrument. Afterwards, she'll be about as relevant as Al Gore was after December 2000, if not less so. She'll take up some PC hobbyhorse as Gore did, most likely Andrea Dworkin-style radical feminism rather than Gore's global warming, and will play no role in national elections.

48 posted on 12/01/2016 3:08:54 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Larry Lucido

The 2016 Democratic National Convention was held in Philadelphia, PA. That didn’t stop Trump from winning the state!


49 posted on 12/01/2016 3:14:55 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Starboard
Obama is going to hold a grudge against them for her failure and allowing the destruction of his legacy.

If he is to be believed (and there's every indication he believes his crap himself), he thinks his legacy is intact because, as with the midterm defeats, he doesn't think he had anything to do with them or Hillary's meltdown.

50 posted on 12/01/2016 3:18:42 PM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: Kaslin

I’m pretty sure there are laws against running from President from a prison cell


51 posted on 12/01/2016 3:33:25 PM PST by WashingtonFire
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To: Cowboy Bob

>> “We were concerned,” explained Coons, “what Donald Trump might do is refuse to accept the results, and challenge them — not the way Jill Stein is doing within the boundaries of the law and within a time and process set out — but by simply refusing to accept the results and inciting his supporters around the country.” In other words, had Trump questioned the results, he would have gathered up a mob and passed out pitchforks, knives and guns. Stein uses lawyers.

Typical of the left. They accuse us of doing what they would do. Also, they love the loopholes, don’t they. I suppose that’s understandable. They have rammed so much down the throats of Americans via the courts when they couldn’t get it via legislation or the ballot box. Lawyers are their fallback desperation move. Add in some leftwing “protests” and riots to cap it off.


52 posted on 12/01/2016 3:37:51 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: WashingtonFire

And if there is not, there sure should be one.


53 posted on 12/01/2016 3:40:51 PM PST by Kaslin (Most humans have an attention span of about 10 minutes, after that they will revert to daydreaming)
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To: Alberta's Child

Move it to Allentown. :-)


54 posted on 12/01/2016 3:45:20 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Convicting Hillary is not going to do anything to keep Chelsea from running for office (unless there is proof that she participated in the Clinton Foundation hinky doings).”

i thought the Clinton Foundation paid for Chelsea’s wedding? will that Russian hack cause Chelsea from becoming the democrat’s nominee for Congress from her parents home district when Anita Lowey retires? i doubt it. you are right. the Clintons will try to parlay Chelsea’s office into the life support for the CF.


55 posted on 12/01/2016 4:03:05 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: Kaslin

56 posted on 12/01/2016 4:34:37 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Kaslin
After her Nobel Prize, anything is possible...


57 posted on 12/01/2016 4:35:39 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Kaslin

58 posted on 12/01/2016 4:38:13 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I want to see the Clinton Foundation shut down as a corrupt organization under RICO and the assets seized.


59 posted on 12/01/2016 5:31:05 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The Democrat Party generally feels it’s time to “Move On” from the Clintons and find some fresh leadership or direction.

Yes, but I suspect they will double-down on the progressive platform, and they'll end up with Elizabeth Warren or someone like her in 2020.

As long as Trump's administration isn't tainted by an economic decline or scandal of some sort (remember -- the lamestream media will be constantly on the lookout for something they can inflate to the scale of Watergate), I don't think he will have any problem in 2020, if he chooses to run.

60 posted on 12/01/2016 7:10:58 PM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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