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Clinton vs. Trump II, 2020
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2016 | Larry Elder

Posted on 12/01/2016 1:18:54 PM PST by Kaslin

Every sane person expects Green Party candidate Jill Stein's attempt to overturn the election with her vote recount effort to crash and burn. Given this, why would the Hillary Clinton campaign file a motion in support of a Stein-initiated request for a hand vote recount in Wisconsin?

Under the reasonable assumption that what's good for the Clintons is good for the Clintons, one is left with but one conclusion. Hillary Clinton's political death is premature. After the election, Donald Trump analysts, having seen the Clintons pull a raft of rabbits out of a hat, should know better. There is no such thing as the "end of the era of the Clintons."

With the Democrats' Trump Derangement Syndrome already in full bloom, and the clowns at MSNBC practically drafting articles of impeachment of President-elect Trump, Hillary Clinton expects the Trump presidency to be a disaster, or at least to be quasi-credibly attacked as such -- which is the same thing. Health permitting, she's gearing up for another shot in 2020. In fact, it's inaccurate to say "gearing up." She never stopped.

As usual, Clinton can count on a big assist by the major media that, for example, slams Trump for claiming that non-citizens voted while giving Stein/Clinton the soft treatment as they make similar assertions. When Trump balked at agreeing to accept the election results, Democrats and their media colluders dismissed concerns about voting integrity as "baseless" and "unsubstantiated."

Buoyed by her popular-vote margin of some two million over Republican winner Donald Trump and his slender, combined 100,000-vote margin in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Clinton no doubt feels that Clinton vs. Trump Round 1 was hers to lose. Next time, better advisers. And no more taking the Midwest for granted.

Stein's recount effort will not produce enough votes to change the outcome, but it will feed the narrative that Trump is an interloper, elected by "outside interference" or some other dark possibility. Credibility is irrelevant as long as it feels true to enough non-Trump voters. Only in America can Stein lavish praise on dictator Fidel Castro, who ran unopposed, while protesting the legitimacy of Trump's victory.

Sure, Clinton blasted Trump for asserting, during the last pre-election debate, that he would not commit to accepting the election results: "That's horrifying. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. ... This is? -- ?this is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it's funny, but it's also really troubling. So that is not the way our democracy works. We've been around for 240 years. We've had free and fair elections. We've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. ... Let's be clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating -- he is talking down our democracy. And I am appalled that someone who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that position."

But that was so October.

The shameless about-face on challenging the result was on full display when CNN's Wolf Blitzer questioned Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., who supports Stein's recount.

"Jill Stein is taking advantage of an existing provision in the law that allows you to ask for a recount and pay for it within a certain period of time," said Coons. "Donald Trump is undermining the whole concept that this was a free and fair election by suggesting that literally millions of illegal votes were cast for which there is absolutely no evidence."

"But," said Blitzer, "you would have been adamantly opposed to it if Donald Trump had lost the election and Hillary Clinton won and he was doing what she is doing right now."

"We were concerned," explained Coons, "what Donald Trump might do is refuse to accept the results, and challenge them -- not the way Jill Stein is doing within the boundaries of the law and within a time and process set out -- but by simply refusing to accept the results and inciting his supporters around the country." In other words, had Trump questioned the results, he would have gathered up a mob and passed out pitchforks, knives and guns. Stein uses lawyers.

As for Clinton's role in all of this, with apologies to Sarah Palin, she can see November 2020 from her Chappaqua front porch.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020elections; hillaryrottenclinton; jillstein; larryelder
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To: Kaslin

Clinton’s ghost vs. Trump, 2020.


21 posted on 12/01/2016 1:46:32 PM PST by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: Kaslin

re her mental health, she is currently in blithering idiot status. In four more years and she’ll be a full blown zombie. Does anyone really believe the establishment party will back her again? Soros will toss her like a soiled rag.


22 posted on 12/01/2016 1:48:12 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Kaslin

I cringe every time I hear someone argue that we don’t need to investigate the Clintons now because they are done politically. The will never be done. Even if she doesn’t run in 2020 they have 100 million to play hell with, and when they are gone Chelsea will have it. Got to drive the proverbial stake through the heart with those people.


23 posted on 12/01/2016 1:50:49 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

Convicting Hillary is not going to do anything to keep Chelsea from running for office (unless there is proof that she participated in the Clinton Foundation hinky doings).

Frankly I can’t imagine her wanting to after watching her mother’s campaign.


24 posted on 12/01/2016 1:56:07 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

25 posted on 12/01/2016 1:57:53 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’ll add (5) that Obama will be the de facto leader of the party and will move to freeze out the Clintons and their operatives.


26 posted on 12/01/2016 1:59:48 PM PST by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe in 2020 she will still be in jail? Or taken away any right to see classified files so she can never run.


27 posted on 12/01/2016 2:06:01 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Kaslin

Good lord....Hillary will be dead long before 2020.

What will be absolutely disgusting will be her funeral.


28 posted on 12/01/2016 2:08:11 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

If she is alive four years from now she’ll weigh at least 300 pounds.


29 posted on 12/01/2016 2:09:55 PM PST by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist inmy lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Kaslin

I say both Clintons will be taking dirt naps by then.


30 posted on 12/01/2016 2:13:52 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: bigbob

Clinton Death Pool?

Sounds like a worthwhile use of FR bandwidth.


31 posted on 12/01/2016 2:14:45 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes ... you have summarized the conventional thinking. I am not so sure. I think there is a good chance she will run again in 2020.


32 posted on 12/01/2016 2:20:33 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Kaslin

HIllaryous. I never knew Larry did stand-up comedy. Very funny.


33 posted on 12/01/2016 2:23:28 PM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I have serious doubts that she will even be alive in 4 years!

I agree....

34 posted on 12/01/2016 2:28:45 PM PST by Stepan12 (go)
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To: plain talk

She won’t be doing any campaign stops from jail.


35 posted on 12/01/2016 2:29:13 PM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

She had every political advantage you can think of including a massive campaign war chest, a media firewall surrounding and protecting her, and a former president stumping for her all over the country, but yet she couldn’t beat a community organizer or a businessman with no political experience.

Toward the final days of her last campaign she was too exhausted to make many appearances in public. The next run would take another two grueling years on the campaign trail. She is a failed candidate and no longer has physical stamina for another shot at the presidency. She’s done.


36 posted on 12/01/2016 2:37:27 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Good analysis on all points.


37 posted on 12/01/2016 2:38:21 PM PST by Starboard
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To: morphing libertarian

That sounds good to me if they are 2020 presidential threads. There are midterm elections in 2018 though


38 posted on 12/01/2016 2:40:53 PM PST by Kaslin (Most humans have an attention span of about 10 minutes, after that they will revert to daydreaming)
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To: Crolis

That’s another good point. Obama is going to hold a grudge against them for her failure and allowing the destruction of his legacy. And perhaps even worse things to come when the Trump people start getting access to documents that reveal what’s been going on over the last eight years.


39 posted on 12/01/2016 2:41:51 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Let her be a loser


40 posted on 12/01/2016 2:41:53 PM PST by Kaslin (Most humans have an attention span of about 10 minutes, after that they will revert to daydreaming)
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