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Critical reform (policy, politically) on immigration from Day One: Freeze corrupt H1B and L1 visas

Posted on 11/28/2016 1:25:25 PM PST by Javeth

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1 posted on 11/28/2016 1:25:25 PM PST by Javeth
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tl;dr

H1B visa people steal technology. We need containment on foreign workers her on work visas from industries of vital national interest.

That means kick all the chinese nationals her as guests in the government funded technology labs.


2 posted on 11/28/2016 1:29:48 PM PST by Fhios (Fortune favors the bold. Trump is bold.)
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I have long said to PROSECUTE the ENTIRE BOARD OF DIRECTORS in Every one of these Companies and put them ALL IN JAIL.

They make Policy, nobody else.


3 posted on 11/28/2016 1:31:04 PM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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ENTIRE BOARD OF DIRECTORS

Which begs the question: How many board members and top executive a H1B's?

4 posted on 11/28/2016 1:41:02 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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The ‘brain drain’ from India has long been completed.

Now they give degrees out witht 3 cereal box tops, I think.

I hae made a good careeer out of fixing cheap source code written by outsourced or H1B visa cheap programmers.


5 posted on 11/28/2016 1:41:47 PM PST by Mr. K
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crony capitalists like Robert Iger at Disney ARE ALREADY FLOUTING THE LAW, so Trump's team need not go through the mess of passing new laws--just enforce what's already there. The H1B is explicitly supposed to be used only when Americans cannot be tapped to fill the job, and Disney clearly violated this policy. The same with SoCal Edison, same with Zuckerberg at Facebook, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs, Chase and the health insurers who routinely replace Americans with cheap Indian labor. Obviously there are Americans to do these jobs, so the law on H1B is being nakedly violated

It's not at all clear that they're violating the letter of the law, as opposed to the law's alleged intent:

"H-1B Is Designed to Allow Employers to Replace Americans with Cheap Foreign Workers [...] H-1B Is Designed to Allow Employers to Pay Foreign Workers Extremely Low Wages" - Primer For Reporters Looking Into the H-1B Program, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3306445/posts

6 posted on 11/28/2016 1:43:32 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To prevent worker abuse, make visa workers punch time clocks and make employers pay by hour, $25/hour minimum.

Also make it possible for employee to switch to new employer if:
1. able to get $30/hour+
2. raise of $4/hour+
3. new employer pays older employer’s fees

Also let’s not pretend Americans can’t be found to do a job.

Require each visa holder to pay 30% minimum income tax and a $5,000 fee.

[Why not have fee? They are supposed to be premium people, so $5,000/each is small change.]

Require visa holder employers to pay a $5,000 fee too plus post $50,000 bond for each visa employee until employee surrenders his/her visa at a US embassy abroad.

“L-1 visas are available to employees of an international company with offices in both the United States and abroad. The visa allows such foreign workers to relocate to the corporation’s US office after having worked abroad for the company for at least one continuous year within the previous three prior to admission in the US. The US and non-US employers must be related in one of four ways: parent and subsidiary; branch and headquarters; sister companies owned by a mutual parent; or ‘affiliates’ owned by the same or people in approximately the same percentages.[2] The L-1 classification also enables a foreign company which does not yet have an affiliated U.S. office to send an employee to the United States to help establish one, with additional requirements.[3]

“Spouses of L-1 visa holders are allowed to work without restriction in the US (using an L-2 visa) once EAD is granted, and the L-1 visa may legally be used as a stepping stone to a green card under the doctrine of dual intent.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-1_visa


7 posted on 11/28/2016 1:47:15 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Which begs the question: How many board members and top executive a H1B's

ooo! Oooo!! I know!

"None. Because THEIR jobs are too important to outsource!!". do I win?

:-) Actually, I'm sure that it's all well and good for them, until they need to get a password reset and "Steve" from India asks them to make sure their computer is plugged in, then "Go ahead and do the needful reboot".

8 posted on 11/28/2016 1:50:15 PM PST by wbill
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Take a look at all of the scientific and technical papers coming out of “US” universities over the past few years.

The names of the authors read like a Beijing phone book.


9 posted on 11/28/2016 2:02:50 PM PST by factoryrat (We reserve the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Yep, these sorts of measures help to curb the BS and make sure that an H1B hire is brought in because there really is no replacement. This is how Europe and Asia do it— foreign workers cannot be paid anything less than native workers or have any restrictions on their freedom to look for jobs. Any employers who violate this are sent to prison. No exceptions. The Germans are especially tough on this, and even under Merkel with all her stupidity otherwise, the German middle class and tech industry has stayed intact thanks to the wisdom of her predecessors on it.


10 posted on 11/28/2016 2:05:33 PM PST by Javeth
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Which makes it all the more important to bring in and train American workers for those positions. Essentially our universities are training our competitors and giving away coveted and critical technology developed in America. It’s maddening to realize that stupid policies like the H1B and L1 are essentially giving away the USA’s technological dominance to China and India as their workers take our jobs and bring that knowledge back home— with Americans not only losing jobs, but US taxpayers also footing the bill to train them in US universities.


11 posted on 11/28/2016 2:08:12 PM PST by Javeth
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Agreed. Long prison terms for all these globalist traitors as well as the bankster-thieves who brought the economy down in 2008. They no longer have their get out of jail free cards thanks to their partner in crime and corruption Barack Obama.


12 posted on 11/28/2016 2:10:40 PM PST by Javeth
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That happens but we still have a lot of really good Indian talent who come here and end up starting or having key positions in our highest growth tech firms. Arguably they end up as major contributors to the briader wealth in the country—as opposed to the low-skill Latin immigrants who become drains on our coffers for generations.


13 posted on 11/28/2016 2:33:49 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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People that came in on H-1B and became citizens hate it more than anyone else. The know it is a scam. They have kids too.


14 posted on 11/28/2016 2:39:32 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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really good Indian talent who come here and end up starting or having key positions in our highest growth tech firms

That happens, but H-1B is primarily about low-salary code drones.

15 posted on 11/28/2016 2:43:26 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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But that is how a lot of those guys start out.


16 posted on 11/28/2016 2:54:13 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: NobleFree

Exactly, this.


17 posted on 11/28/2016 3:02:36 PM PST by Javeth
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To: 9YearLurker

Far better that Americans be starting out in those positions and get the crucial start to build their careers and families, and start companies. Right now the H1B and L! are being used to displace American workers which makes it impossible to even get on the career ladder. No other country in the world is so stupid to disfavor their own workforce. Pleas about “building wealth” for the country in the abstract are meaningless when they don’t translate into higher wages and opportunities for Americans who built this country into a technological power in the first place. The USA had no H1B during the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s when the real innovations were happening in the computer industry— that was almost all homegrown talent. The H1B has caused America to slit its own throat.


18 posted on 11/28/2016 3:05:55 PM PST by Javeth
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And I’d add that the lack of good starting position jobs for American graduates, and layoffs of older workers, are major contributors to the higher death rate and drastically falling birth rate of native born Americans in the past decade. Tech workers who’ve put years into their training can’t get jobs and pay off their student debt, so they can’t start families. It’s stealth genocide of the native-born American population in effect.


19 posted on 11/28/2016 3:07:28 PM PST by Javeth
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Yes, I’d be all in favor of replacing these corrupt, useless execs and lawyers with H1B hires. These morons whine about high American labor costs when they’re the ones driving up those costs, usually thanks to the cushy overpaid positions that Daddy or Mommy get them in the first place.


20 posted on 11/28/2016 3:09:07 PM PST by Javeth
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