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Clinton’s Loss Is One More Nail In The Coffin Of Center-Left Politics In The West
Washington Post ^ | 11-25-2016 | McAuley and Griff Witte

Posted on 11/25/2016 10:56:08 AM PST by blam

McAuley and Griff Witte
November 24 at 6:11 PM

PARIS — When Donald Trump shocked the world with an upset victory in the U.S. presidential election this month, much of Europe was aghast.

But in at least one critical sense, the result couldn’t have been more European: Across the continent, parties of the center-left that have dominated politics for decades — and that have given Europe its reputation for generous social welfare systems — now find themselves beaten, divided and directionless. Hillary Clinton and the Democrats are just the latest members of a beleaguered club.

In Germany and Britain, once-mighty center-left parties have been badly diminished, locked out of their nations’ top jobs for the foreseeable future. In Spain and Greece, they have been usurped by newer, more radical alternatives. And in France and Italy, they’re still governing — but their days in power may be numbered. The rout of the center-left has even extended deep into Scandinavia, perhaps the world’s premier bastion of social democracy.

Overall, the total vote share for the continent’s traditional center-left parties is now at its lowest level since at least World War II. Like the Democrats, these parties have been marginalized, with little influence over policy as the right prepares to place its stamp on the Western world in a way that could endure for decades.

“If the left and the center-left don’t get their act together, then we’re looking at a period of very unstable right-wing hegemony,” said Alex Callinicos, a European studies professor at King’s College London.

The decline of the European center-left is part of a broader unraveling

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1 posted on 11/25/2016 10:56:08 AM PST by blam
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the world’s premier bastion of social democracy.

None dare call it socialism.

2 posted on 11/25/2016 10:58:52 AM PST by IronJack
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Bummer. Sucks to be a socialist.


3 posted on 11/25/2016 10:59:11 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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yeah...like the EU elections in Ireland and Holland mattered.


4 posted on 11/25/2016 11:01:28 AM PST by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: IronJack

None dare call National Socialists socialists either.


5 posted on 11/25/2016 11:02:10 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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In the 1930s, socialism was thought to be respectable.


6 posted on 11/25/2016 11:11:02 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors!)
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To: blam

“Center-Left”????

She makes Lenin looks like a centrist.


7 posted on 11/25/2016 11:11:18 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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I don’t see any Center Left, only hard left, both in Europe and in the US democrat party.


8 posted on 11/25/2016 11:13:18 AM PST by euram
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Well its not really center-left. Its lying left. Its a progressive sounding, wall-street loving, money grubbing, pandering, control craving, I know whats best and you are dumb political group of one family and their close “friends”.

Hopefully that type of politics is gone. If we now want to have a discussion between the Bernie left and the Trump right then that’s ok. Both aren’t correct but at least both care about the American middle class. They both try to get rid of corruption and they both think the American worker deserves a government that works for them.

Unfortunately, the democrats seem to be unable to see the corruption in their own party. It seems that the educated class does not exclude a lot of cool-aide drinkers.


9 posted on 11/25/2016 11:17:24 AM PST by poinq
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There are hundreds if colleges full of nails left to go.


10 posted on 11/25/2016 11:20:31 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (NoHellary)
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Center-Left Politics

That is what they call the deadly politics of promotes Diversity!™, deadly ambushes of police, open boarders, and mass dependency on government services, while deprecating anyone who produces or supports democratic and/or judeo-christian values.

Center-Left? How about calling it what it really is - radical nihilism.

11 posted on 11/25/2016 11:36:14 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: blam

Poor analogy. Its more like a wooden stake through the evil heart of the “center left”!


12 posted on 11/25/2016 11:37:06 AM PST by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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This is nonsense. She lost the presidency by a fraction of a percent overall, in a few swing states. Liberalism is like mold and mildew. You can get “rid” of it, but given the right environment, it will always come back.


13 posted on 11/25/2016 11:41:33 AM PST by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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"Things fall apart, the center cannot hold / Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world..."

Political society is an amorphous blob: there is no center except for where the observer sits himself. The author has a clue, however:

“With the economic crisis, and the negative effects of globalization, the socialists couldn’t convince the populations in their respective countries that the future lies in a liberal Europe,” said Gérard Grunberg, a historian of socialism at Sciences Po in Paris. “This is the end of the European utopia.”

Europe does not have an economic crisis, it has a half-dozen of them, exacerbated by an increasingly clumsy attempt to manage these diverse economies through a single monetary policy. It was doomed from the start. For evidence I cite the economic disaster that all the earnest pundits predicted that has somehow failed to materialize in Great Britain as a result of Brexit. Surely fellows with degrees from a prestigious European École could never be wrong? These are, after all, the hands at the wheel. Brexit was a miss, the policies were a miss, and their current panic is very much of their own making, not the voters'.

The social crisis is as well. Clearly - actually, self-admittedly - the intake of unassimilable immigrants was not driven by popular opinion but very much in opposition to it and remains so with only minor adjustments as a fillip to the outraged people who actually do have to live with the problem. Tarring this with the names "xenophobia" and "racism" does not serve to dismiss it, it is a transparent attempt to remove it from the bounds of discussion. It too has failed and rightfully so.

This Utopia carried with it several assumptions that are proving threadbare to put it politely: that societies built around a massive shift of resources from defense to social spending would be sustainable, that the actual proprietors of that defense would not someday tire of the expense, that nationalism was the same as sovereignty and eradicable by sufficient propaganda, that nationalism even was the true source of Europe's problems to begin with, that central authority, central planning, and a government divorced from the citizens could muster support from the national governments they were doing their best to supplant. That is not a Utopia except for the ones at the top. We've been down this road before, it's called Empire.

“All these continental parties are nostalgic for the interwar nation-state, which was a total disaster,” he said. “There was never any moment when they were happy, independent nation-states. There was never such a time, and their nostalgia is a kind of disguise."

A straw man, that - the issue is not whether there ever was a happier time but how best to avoid making this time worse than it is. Certainly the first assertion is in error: there were a number of times where there were perfectly happy nation-states and this is one of them. There are, unfortunately, some signally unhappy nation-states as well, most of which a consequence of governments who want to advance their aims at the expense of other nation-states. That the EU itself falls into this category is resolutely denied, but it's a fact, it's what Trump is talking about when he states that we don't want to fund the project's defense deficit any longer.

And then there is a stubborn tendency to attempt to address the whole thing by framing it into a convenient narrative:

..a billionaire tycoon using appeals to xenophobia and racism to scoop up support from voters who no longer believe the party of the working man has their interests at heart.

There is no "party of the working man", there are two parties vying for his support, one of which failing badly and defiantly. There is no xenophobia, only a recognition the uncontrolled immigration is as bad for the immigrants as it is for the citizens, among whom are immigrants themselves. And there is no racism except for the very real racism the Democrats attempted to convert into a broad social movement that itself contains only racists and cranks. They lost. They deserved to. And they're losing in Europe too, and will go down with blinders over their eyes insisting that they were right all along and the citizens unworthy of their grand ideals and schemes.

14 posted on 11/25/2016 11:53:50 AM PST by Billthedrill
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If there is an Alt-Right then something qualifies as an Alt-Left.


15 posted on 11/25/2016 12:07:50 PM PST by Jumper
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16 posted on 11/25/2016 12:33:47 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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“... Center Left Politics In The West”

LOL! Is THAT what it’s called? HA!HA!HA!

However, really it’s not all that far removed from RINO’s co-opting for themselves the “CONSERVATIVE” label. Laughable.


17 posted on 11/25/2016 12:35:43 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxists coming,... infinitum.)
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To: Billthedrill

Great rebuttal points. Well written.

Thanks.


18 posted on 11/25/2016 12:44:44 PM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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Why the Washington Post Has No Credibility
19 posted on 11/25/2016 1:57:11 PM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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Rhinos vs. Camels!


20 posted on 11/25/2016 3:04:36 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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