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A Pennsylvania recount for Hillary Clinton? A ‘nightmare scenario,’ explained (or Stein)
BillyPenn ^ | November 23, 2016 | Anna Orso

Posted on 11/24/2016 10:46:45 AM PST by bobsunshine

A group of secret computer scientists and data analysts are reportedly urging Hillary Clinton to push for a recount of the votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — three key swing states that delivered Donald Trump the presidency on Election Day. According to New York Magazine, that group claims it has found evidence of vote tampering and wants Clinton’s camp to file to recount all those millions of votes.

There’s no evidence the Clinton campaign is actually considering such a drastic move. And indeed, New York says the White House is discouraging her campaign from trying. But if it were to, Pennsylvania would likely be the campaign’s biggest hurdle. A recount in Pennsylvania would be, as described here by an expert on voting machines, a “nightmare scenario.” The Keystone State’s voting machines are outdated by decades and don’t create any sort of paper trail that can be used in cases of recounts.

A recount could still happen under court order. But it would be unprecedented in recent history in Pennsylvania. Though statewide recounts have taken place here, they’ve been ordered by the Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and were mandatory under state law because the winner of the election won within a margin of 0.5 percent. That’s not the case here — Clinton lost to Trump in PA by about 70,000 votes, more than a full percentage point.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016swingstates; clinton; pa2016; stein; trump
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Good Article - Explains what is involved and notice the "court order" because as I understand it, there would have to be massive proven voter fraud to start a recount.
1 posted on 11/24/2016 10:46:46 AM PST by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

Let’s put our cards on the table. The Dems are attempting to steal the election.

If they want CWII, let’s roll.


2 posted on 11/24/2016 10:48:30 AM PST by Signalman
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To: bobsunshine

3 posted on 11/24/2016 10:49:13 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.)
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To: bobsunshine

If they allow her a computer, she can research this from her prison cell.


4 posted on 11/24/2016 10:51:06 AM PST by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: bobsunshine
there would have to be massive proven voter fraud to start a recount.

Then a California recount would be SOP. I think a million illegals voting qualifies as "massive vote fraud".

5 posted on 11/24/2016 10:51:59 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: bobsunshine

The massive fraud was on the demoncrat side and DJT still won by 70k. Seems some leeches have a death wish.


6 posted on 11/24/2016 10:54:33 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: bobsunshine
The results below have been canvassed and certified by county canvassing boards, but are unofficial until certified by the Michigan Board of State Canvassers on Nov. 28. These are the numbers that will be presented to the state board for the Nov. 8 presidential election. Trump leads Clinton by 10,704 votes. 2,279,543 Donald J. Trump, Republican 2,268,839 Hillary Clinton, Democratic 172,136 Gary Johnson, Libertarian 51,463 Jill Stein, Green 16,139 Darrell L. Castle, U.S. Taxpayers 8,177 Evan McMullin, write-in 2,209 Emidio Mimi Soltysik, Natural Law 517 Michael Maturen, write-in 95 Tom Hoefling, write-in 87 Laurence Kotlikoff, write-in 39 Ben Hartnell, write-in 30 Monica Moorehead, write-in ​10 Cherunda Fox, write-in http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8722_76444-397762--,00.html
7 posted on 11/24/2016 10:56:25 AM PST by Signalman
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To: bobsunshine

While the commie libs “count the ballots”, Americans can spend some time at the range.


8 posted on 11/24/2016 10:58:52 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (A proud, irredeemable deplorable of the Trump Revolution.)
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To: BigEdLB

I wonder if Clinton will stop this because massive illegals who voted for her would be exposed - thus her popular vote would diminish. Just thinking - doubt she cares.


9 posted on 11/24/2016 10:59:30 AM PST by bobsunshine
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Not only will this effort go nowhere, I contend that it was designed and planned with the intention that it would go nowhere. The entire point of this idiocy is to allow propaganda media sources like Yahoo and CNN to continually cast doubts on the legitimacy of Trump’s resounding victory.

Rest assured that for the next four years we will constantly hear the Mainstream media use phrases like “Trump’s disputed election” and “Trump’s controversial victory”.

It’s time to fight back against this hard. I would love to see a nationwide examination of illegal and dead voters, I doubt that this would favor Clinton.


10 posted on 11/24/2016 11:00:28 AM PST by Junk Silver
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She'll never do it ...

She was kept alive with bubble gum and scotch tape for the election process and barely survived it.

She is glad it's all over and she can be a doddering gra'maw ... Bill is gone, Huma is gone and Chelsea is politely a daughter ... all she's got is grand babies.

11 posted on 11/24/2016 11:03:02 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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I wonder if evidence of massive fraud that favored Clinton would be obvious in Pennsylvania, and would negate her claims that there is evidence of fraud. For example, precincts in Philly where Trump got suspiciously few votes, or where Hillary got more than the number of registered voters, as happened in 2012. This possibility may be why Obama is discouraging the effort.

This will give the terminally stupid something to claim about this election for decades to come.

12 posted on 11/24/2016 11:03:50 AM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: bobsunshine
"secret computer scientists"


13 posted on 11/24/2016 11:04:13 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: ChildOfThe60s; bobsunshine
"there would have to be massive proven voter fraud to start a recount.

Then a California recount would be SOP. I think a million illegals voting qualifies as "massive vote fraud"."

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No way a recount should be done in those selective states. A recount of the entire election would have to be done to remove all the votes by FOREIGNERS, those that voted multiple times and votes by dead people.

Oh, and every single military vote must be counted.

Hillary would not only still loose, but she would be several million behind Trump in the popular vote.

Claim: 3 million votes cast by non-citizens (2016 election)

Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections

14 posted on 11/24/2016 11:04:57 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Signalman
Let’s put our cards on the table. The Dems are attempting to steal the election.

I think not.

Oh, they'd take the theft if they could pull it off. But, I don't think they think they can. They're just softening the ground for future election contests.

Dems have no respect for a "fair fight and it's over." They'll lose a fight and attack from behind as the winner turns his back.

So, this is just more of the same. I'd bet Jill is being funded by Hillary sympathizers, or even by Hillary's campaign. Raising $3million in a week to pay for the recount seems like a lot. Is it more than Jill ran her whole campaign on? I wonder.

15 posted on 11/24/2016 11:05:09 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Junk Silver
"The entire point of this idiocy is to allow propaganda media sources like Yahoo and CNN to continually cast doubts on the legitimacy of Trump’s resounding victory."

Yup, that's all this is.

16 posted on 11/24/2016 11:06:27 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Junk Silver
I would love to see a nationwide examination of illegal and dead voters

With the resources of the DOJ, this would be possible and it could and should lead to indictments. That would then set up legislation to standardize voter ID laws and registration requirements for federal elections. Those would be thrown out as "racist" by Obama's district court judges, and then upheld by Trump's Supreme Court, in time for the 2020 election. In fact, the legislation should have a fast track provision that gets it to the SC within 6 months, or directly.

17 posted on 11/24/2016 11:09:15 AM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: Signalman

Do they really want to start something? I do not think the elite of the dimwitcrat party sees the big picture. CW II would end up with such strict voter ID and SCOTUS justices removed. Also participants would no be allowed to vote ay more. Most universities humanities courses would be shut down with Nuremberg trials for leftist totalitarian professors tried for treason. New massive prison in Northeast Alaska, with polar bears and wolves as ‘natural’ prison guards. ANY attempt to steal the election would be dire...


18 posted on 11/24/2016 11:10:07 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: bobsunshine
Not going to happen.

A final clutch at a straw as the drowning Dems go under for the last time.


19 posted on 11/24/2016 11:11:55 AM PST by henbane
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To: knarf

An insightful analysis, actually.


20 posted on 11/24/2016 11:13:39 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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