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New idea from anti-Trump electors: Use the electoral college to make a statement(T)
hotair.com ^ | 11/23/2016 | Allahpundit

Posted on 11/24/2016 9:22:56 AM PST by rktman

They’ve all but given up on flipping the 37 electoral votes they’d need to deny Trump 270 (not quite all, I guess, but most) yet they can still exploit the process to do some PR for changing the way the system works in the future. One thing that occurs to me: If a few more Democrats and a few less Republicans had turned out in Florida on Election Day, Hillary might have won the state while going on to lose the presidency very narrowly to Trump, 277/261. In that scenario, all you would have needed to throw the election to the House is eight red-state “faithless electors” to withhold their votes from Trump. If nine red-staters shifted their votes from Trump to Clinton, Hillary would have won the presidency outright and the country would have been paralyzed in a major national crisis. Everyone, pro-Trump or anti, should be glad that he piled up a comfortable electoral college win once he crossed 270, as the outcome easily could have been much tighter. (Remember, the winning trifecta of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, which accounted for 46 electoral votes, was decided by a total of just 107,000 popular votes.) You would think such a miserable election would naturally end in the most contentious way possible, but we ended up being spared one last bitterly controversial act.

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Hmmm. How about whoever wins the most congressional districts wins the presidency? It would reduce the EC votes and the winner of each district would get 1 EC vote. Sure would make the dems work a lot harder out in the yucky fly over country. Yewwwwwww. Or would it eliminate the EC altogether. Possibilities?
1 posted on 11/24/2016 9:22:56 AM PST by rktman
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They should do it by county --

I believe the US has about 5000 counties.
I believe Hillary won 300 of them.

2 posted on 11/24/2016 9:24:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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Funny how these articles never mention the places Hillary barely won. NH, VA, etc.

Why is that?


3 posted on 11/24/2016 9:25:28 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Don’t want to hurt her feelings? Just a guess.


4 posted on 11/24/2016 9:26:17 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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They might get one or two. Maybe this is a good pacifier for them to suck onwhile the adults get things done.


5 posted on 11/24/2016 9:30:24 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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Instead of “electoral votes” call them “electoral points”. Whoever gets the most points wins, end of story.


6 posted on 11/24/2016 9:31:27 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (SandyInPeoria just doesn't sound right... yet here I am.)
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To: rktman
You would think such a miserable election would naturally end in the most contentious way possible, but we ended up being spared one last bitterly controversial act.

I don't know... Maybe in four years Hillary Clinton will shoot Steve Bannon!

-PJ

7 posted on 11/24/2016 9:33:27 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Why didn’t they think of this in 2000, which Bush won (with FL) 271-267? Then they would have needed just three electoral college reversals to overturn the result.


8 posted on 11/24/2016 9:34:03 AM PST by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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If they violate the rules regarding who they vote for, the House can nullify their votes.

If the House nullifies their votes, then the number of EV’s can be reduced accordingly. Thus, if the House nullified 5 delegates, then the number needed to win would be 265, not 270. That is something the rebels apparently didn’t realize.


9 posted on 11/24/2016 9:36:14 AM PST by TomGuy
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“They should do it by county —
I believe the US has about 5000 counties.
I believe Hillary won 300 of them.”
There are 3141 counties and Trump claims to have won 3084. Yeah lets decide by counties won :-)


10 posted on 11/24/2016 9:37:07 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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I don't like it. That approach eliminates the role of the states in a presidential election.

The Maine/Nebraska hybrid model -- where the winner of each Congressional district gets one electoral vote and the winner of the overall state gets the two electoral votes that correspond to the two Senate seats -- is probably the best model I've seen.

11 posted on 11/24/2016 9:39:11 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Spots of blue, floating in a sea of red.

The leftists may want to think twice (like they can think critically) about what the odyssey to hell that they intend to embark upon.


12 posted on 11/24/2016 9:40:12 AM PST by factoryrat (We reserve the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Poor Hillary. Being a Satanist, in her deal with the devil she forgot that he is a literalist in the execution of his contracts- he delivers what its words call for, not necessarily what the other party actually wanted.

After all, he gave her a popular vote total1. Perhaps she failed to specify state by state.


1. Illegal votes notwithstanding.
13 posted on 11/24/2016 9:40:41 AM PST by COBOL2Java (1 Tim 2:1-3)
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LOL Hillary’s America is really really small county-wise.


14 posted on 11/24/2016 9:41:52 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep. Award electors by counties.


15 posted on 11/24/2016 9:42:36 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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The only 2 EVers I know of that won’t vote for their candidate are dems.


16 posted on 11/24/2016 9:43:15 AM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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HotAir’s Allahpundit is creaming his shorts again.


17 posted on 11/24/2016 9:56:24 AM PST by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: Alberta's Child
The Maine/Nebraska hybrid model -- where the winner of each Congressional district gets one electoral vote and the winner of the overall state gets the two electoral votes that correspond to the two Senate seats -- is probably the best model I've seen.

That would seem way too sensitive to gerrymandering to me. I like the statewide model much better.

18 posted on 11/24/2016 9:56:56 AM PST by Religion and Politics (It's Morning in America)
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Valid point, but the current statewide model has the same basic flaw as a national popular vote — the dominance of large metro areas in the election.


19 posted on 11/24/2016 10:01:47 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: 2banana

Was it close in either Nevada or Colorado?


20 posted on 11/24/2016 10:05:01 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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