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The Electoral College Was Meant to Stop Men Like Trump From Being President
The Atlantic ^ | November 21, 2016 | Peter Beinhart

Posted on 11/21/2016 8:56:08 AM PST by C19fan

Americans talk about democracy like it’s sacred. In public discourse, the more democratic American government is, the better. The people are supposed to rule.

But that’s not the premise that underlies America’s political system. Most of the men who founded the United States feared unfettered majority rule. James Madison wrote in Federalist 10 that systems of government based upon “pure democracy … have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property.” John Adams wrote in 1814 that, “Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antitrump; beinart; democracy; electoral; electoralcollege; handwringers; leftist; liberalagenda; trump; trumpderangement; trumptransition
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To: C19fan

Trump is amazing. He has made the Left to start quoting Dead White Males with reverence. 

Bears repeating!


21 posted on 11/21/2016 9:05:46 AM PST by dasboot (GOV POLICY: From each according to our needs; to each according to our needs.)
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.....and the 2nd Amendment was meant to protect our government from wannabe tyrants who would steal an election....be very, very careful, nutjobs!


22 posted on 11/21/2016 9:05:55 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: 2banana
It was designed to stop Hillarys...

Exactly. A pol with criminal leanings not sufficiently exposed was exactly who the Founders had in mind for the Electoral College to stop.

It is another falsification of history to claim that a successful non-politician would be opposed by the Founders.

23 posted on 11/21/2016 9:06:11 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: C19fan

Meanwhile, Beinart’s fellow travelers are claiming the opposite of what he states in his headline. Not that Beinart has ever made any sense.


24 posted on 11/21/2016 9:06:20 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: C19fan

So many things people say now about the electoral college crack me up.

Some people argue “it almost always gives the “right” result, matching the popular vote”. Of course, if it always matches the popular vote, it isn’t doing anything.

The entire point was that we did not WANT the person who got the most votes, we wanted the person who demonstrated majority popularity throughout the country.

Like Donald Trump having the support of the plurality of people in 30 or the 50 states, or 60%, while Clinton had only 40%, plus of course the city of DC.


25 posted on 11/21/2016 9:06:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: C19fan

Good try at leftwing propaganda.

The electoral College was one of the checks put in place so that the smaller areas of large population could not control the entire country. The forefathers called it exactly right and set up a system that defeated the clinton crime family and the useful idiots who supported her.

Once again the constitution worked exactly as it was designed to work. One more time, the liberals are frustrated and angry at the FACT that they are limited by what they believe is an outdated and worthless document.

Just wait until the conservatives introduce the Super Nuclear Option and send SCOTUS candidate to the senate floor for an up or down vote based on a simple majority vote.

A few years ago I clearly stated, with a big smirk on my mug, that the democrats were going to live to regret pulling their nuclear option crap. Well, the nuclear option is soon to be extended to SCOTUS confirmations as well and there is not a damn thing the liberals can do about it.

Remember, every democrat needs to clearly remember,that the nuclear option was all your idea.....

Now live with it.


26 posted on 11/21/2016 9:06:44 AM PST by oldenuff35
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To: 2banana; Chauncey Gardiner

There is no certainty that the Electoral College, in and of itself, would have prevented the election of Herself to the Presidency. It does allow for some sometimes very fancy bank-shot pool playing, and certain combinations and certain angles are much more productive than others. Widespread fraud in one state does not seriously endanger the overall outcome, but if fraud is going to be attempted, then it may have to be carried out in several places simultaneously.

Herself was just not a very good candidate. For which we may be eternally grateful.


27 posted on 11/21/2016 9:07:02 AM PST by alloysteel (Je suis deplorable.)
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To: C19fan

No... it was meant to stop men like Obama from usurping the office as an illegal alien terrorist sympathizer.


28 posted on 11/21/2016 9:07:50 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: C19fan

Liar. So, what we were taught in school was false? Our political and electoral system worked the way it was supposed to work. And who is unhappy? The losers and liars.


29 posted on 11/21/2016 9:09:40 AM PST by Daaave ('Where it all ends I can't fathom my friends')
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To: C19fan

The left continues its rapid descent into self-parody.


30 posted on 11/21/2016 9:11:04 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: C19fan

If anything, Trump would be the best entry into any form of government we are now saddled with. He at least wants what the original founders wanted. I trust the man as he has skin in the game and no special interests.

Trump may not be what everybody wanted but is what everyone needed. He is the closest to Washington and Jefferson and Jackson and Teddy.

He may very well surprise us and be even greater.
I hope so and so far he has not disappointed.

He said he would not let us down.
WINNING!


31 posted on 11/21/2016 9:11:50 AM PST by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO!)
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To: 2banana

BINGO! (But it would’t have, and we all know it)


32 posted on 11/21/2016 9:12:30 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: C19fan

“The Electoral College Was Meant to Stop Men Like Trump From Being President”
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Like...maybe...STOP non-politicians/crooks, etc...?/!

Semper President TRUMP!
Dick.G: AMERICAN!
aka: Gunny G
@ Planet WTF!
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33 posted on 11/21/2016 9:12:31 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Gaffer

I see more and more the news touting the fact Hillary WON the popular vote...now it is by 1-l/2 million. (No doubt all of them the results of illegal voting, dead people voting, and out and out computer fraud...estimated so far as 3,000,000 fraudulent votes, and I doubt any of those votes were for Trump.) Hillary should hang her head in shame and leave the country...before she HAS to leave the country, and quickly!


34 posted on 11/21/2016 9:14:02 AM PST by kiltie65
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I can only hope that one of the accomplishments of an entirely Republican government is that we can get a real and honest investigation into voter fraud and find out exactly how deep the rabbit hole goes once and for all.


35 posted on 11/21/2016 9:15:18 AM PST by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: C19fan

What a dildo. These people are beyond stupid.


36 posted on 11/21/2016 9:15:42 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: C19fan

The U.S. Constitution is not a “living” document, any more than Hoyle’s Rules for Card Games is. The Constitution does have a built-in mechanism for making changes, via Amendments. Therefor, making changes willy-nilly is not easy.


37 posted on 11/21/2016 9:15:58 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in theolog and politics.)
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To: C19fan

Amazing how lib arts arts trolls have never read history.


38 posted on 11/21/2016 9:18:54 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I can imagine Trump to be on Mount Rushmore one day.


39 posted on 11/21/2016 9:19:24 AM PST by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO!)
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To: kiltie65

The Constitution only speaks about he Electoral College; it says nothing about popular votes. The fact is that she didn’t gain the support of enough widely dispersed Americans. She only concentrated on race and victim status and depended on her mainstay stalwarts - all the highly infested population centers in this country.

The men who wrote this Constitution knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They were God-inspired and prescient. They all shared one thing - a complete distrust of an all-powerful central government.


40 posted on 11/21/2016 9:21:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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