SR 1352 – Hillary Clinton Cannot Steal the Election From Trump!

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[Verginius Rufus]

One or two of the Washington State electors may not vote for Hillary. If somehow Trump fell below 270 but Hillary was still below 270, the House would choose between the top three candidates. The third one could be Bernie, or Egg McMuffin, or Gary Johnson. If it goes to the House it’s very improbable that Hillary would be the winner.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Is the electoral vote made public or is it held in secret to avoid reprisal against those who vote?

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I do not know the answer, but I never conceived of this question being asked!

[Cboldt]

-- Is the electoral vote made public or is it held in secret to avoid reprisal against those who vote? --

The names of electors are public record.

U. S. Electoral College: Historical Election Results
U. S. Electoral College 2012 Election - Certificates (for example)

[\/\/ayne]

Thanks for making this; signed it.

[NoCmpromiz]

Signed it too. The perpetual barrage of emails from them (change.org) go to my gmail account which I ignore... ;-)

[billyboy15]

This pretty well explains why this happening is the closest thing to impossible.

1) The Trump state electors are Republican Party stalwarts or activists chosen during state party deliberations — check out this excellent Politico feature “The People Who Pick the President” to see who some of them are. Almost always, the parties do a good enough job of vetting their respective electoral slates to ensure that they will indeed loyally back their party’s presidential nominee.
The Republican Party clearly ended up falling behind Trump, and any Republican elector who abandons him would be defying the will of not only their state’s voters but also the party generally. And while there actually are some Trump skeptics who are electors, they’ve pretty much all said they’d affirm the results in their states.

2) Trump now looks likely to end up with 306 electors to Clinton’s 232. So it’s not as if one or two electors could make the difference. Thirty-seven electors would have to desert Trump to deprive him of his majority. That’s a lot.

3) These electors wouldn’t just have to desert Trump. Simply depriving Trump of 270 votes without giving Clinton herself 270 would throw the election to the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, which is certain to award the presidency to Trump. To prevent Trump’s election, they’d all have to affirmatively back Clinton.
Keep in mind that hardly any of even Trump’s strongest critics in the GOP went so far as to actually endorse Hillary Clinton over him. Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and George W. Bush all refused to go so far, saying instead they’d vote for no one or write in somebody else.

4) Any large-scale defections from Trump would surely be disputed by his supporters in those states, who may well just send in a conflicting set of electoral votes. And an 1887 law holds that if states send in multiple conflicting sets of electoral college votes, Congress gets to vote on which ones to recognize. The Republican-controlled Congress would obviously not go along with an attempt by electors to steal the presidency for Hillary Clinton.

5) Hillary Clinton has conceded the election and recognized Donald Trump as the winner. There is no sign that she would go along with or participate in this endeavor.

6) Most importantly, there are democratic norms. The broader reason we’ve only had nine faithless electors in the past 80 years or so, despite the enormous power they seem to have, is that it’s widely believed that picking the president isn’t their job anymore. Their job is to affirm the results in their states.

In summary, what people are talking about is getting 37 Republican Party activists expected to vote for Trump to essentially steal the election for Hillary Clinton in defiance of the will of the people in their states and the widely recognized rules of the presidential contest, even though Clinton herself doesn’t want them to. Not going to happen.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13588048/electoral-college-petition-clinton-trump

[Joe Boucher]

It would cause war.
Not gonna happen.

[Verginius Rufus]

Good points...but I think if Hillary were to become convinced it was doable, she was be masterminding the effort behind the scenes. Remember, Gore conceded and then withdrew his concession.

The faithless electors would have to be given $10 million apiece and villas on the French Riviera.

[billyboy15]

Just because nothing is impossible does not mean it is probable or even close to being probable. This story is nothing but click bait when posted by on line publications