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To: D-fendr
"Cruz is not naturalized citizen"

Cruz is a naturalized citizen. Prior to the 1930's Cruz would not even be a citizen of the USA. Congress in the 30's passed a law allowing a mother to pass her citizenship to her children. If a law passed by congress makes you a citizen you are by definition not a natural born citizen.

The son of a Cuban, born in Canada is not a natural born citizen of the USA.

305 posted on 11/15/2016 8:54:18 PM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

Because the Constitution does not define what a natural-born citizen is, ALL natural-born citizens are put in that class because of how the law is written.

Precedent from English law says that natural-born at the time did include British subjects born in another country.


307 posted on 11/15/2016 8:58:28 PM PST by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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To: jpsb
a law allowing a mother to pass her citizenship to her children.

IF!...she declared him a US citizen, and obtained a CRBA.

Where is it?

308 posted on 11/15/2016 9:01:33 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be our President.)
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To: jpsb

>>>Cruz is a naturalized citizen.

When did he apply?


309 posted on 11/15/2016 9:04:30 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: jpsb

>>>”If a law passed by congress makes you a citizen you are by definition not a natural born citizen.”

Congress legislates what is required for being naturalized. Those not requiring naturalization can only be natural born or not citizens.

Congress determines what requires naturalization and therefore what does not. So both are determined by congress. Your argument here is specious.

>>>”The son of a Cuban..”

And the son of an a U.S. citizen.

Under U.S. law, the fact that he was born to a U.S. citizen mother makes him a citizen from birth - not requiring naturalization.


325 posted on 11/15/2016 9:53:54 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: jpsb; D-fendr; JediJones; ROCKLOBSTER

Oh Canada!

It’s no wonder it took Ted nearly 1-1/2 years to clear up his Canadian citizenship once the Dallas Post called him out on this after they discovered they had a Canadian-Texan Senator. This was no routine revocation of citizenship. He had his records and his parent’s records sealed. It was Breitbart News that interviewed Ted’s staff when Ted became ‘unavailable’ for comment with a straight answer. And DJT has exactly what Steve Bannon and The NE knows about the Cruzs.

From an earlier comment: It doesn’t matter whether Eleanor or Rafael Cruz voted during the period that they were Canadian citizens.

They were on the rolls because the Provincial Elections Supervisor of Alberta, Canada approved their placement on the voting roll as Canadian citizens. Eleanor and Rafael’s names were printed in the Calgary newspaper and publicly posted 60 days prior to each election.

They were interviewed at their home in Calgary, declared their Canadian citizenship, presented ID, confirmed their permanent address and respective occupation / status. After this interview process, the information was verified at the Provincial Elections Office. Eleanor and Rafael Cruz were placed on the voting rolls which consisted of 100% Canadian citizens eligible to vote (over age 18.)

One who is born in Canada to Canadian citizens (a Cuban-expat and an American expat) is a 100% natural born Canadian citizen.

Ted is once.....twice.......three times a Canadian.

There are thousands of people born around the world to an American mother or father and they will never be natural born citizens. Most will never apply for U.S. citizenship. Ted holds a Canadian birth certificate and it is not amendable to a USA certification.

And Rafael Cruz’s “story” of how he came from Cuba—>Miami-—>Texas-—>New Orleans-—>Texas-—> Europe-—>Canada-—>Texas leads to lots of questions which all come back to the circle of BUSH.


348 posted on 11/15/2016 11:59:43 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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