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GOP President-Elect Donald Trump Says Same-Sex Marriage Is 'Settled' Law
ABC News ^ | 11/13/2016 | Benjamin Siegel

Posted on 11/13/2016 6:39:01 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SoFloFreeper

This is not an issue?


101 posted on 11/13/2016 8:49:14 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: SeekAndFind
Elections have consequences and all the conservative purists who refused to turn out for Romney have no one but themselves to blame.

As for now, the Gay Agenda has far too much power to confront without spending huge amounts of political capitol.

Sixteen out of the last twenty four years were under the control of radical Clinton and Obama Administrations so a huge fraction of Federal Judges are Clinton and Obama appointees.

A judge appointed at age 40 by GHW Bush in 1991 is now past 65 years of age. It's only by Gods Grace that Obama only appointed two Supreme Court Justices

I think Trump's position is that this is a state issue and let each state figure it out for themselves.

Let the Republican dominated states fight it out for the next few years while conservative judges replace the liberals on the Supreme Court.

Perhaps then the country can make some headway but for now, barring some huge change in public opinion, it's a losing fight.

102 posted on 11/13/2016 8:55:33 PM PST by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, it is not. And it’s Trump’s Supreme Court justices who are going to overturn it.

Right?


103 posted on 11/13/2016 9:02:40 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: bramps

You were right. He, in January, was talking about overturning it. Now he says he’s fine with it. Libs jubilant on Twitter and Reddit.

Ultimately, as long as he puts conservative justices on the Supreme Court, that’s what is important.

People are saying he must protect religious freedom, and I agree, but with gay marriage legalized, I see the courts using that to say bakers, florists, etc. can’t discriminate if it violates their moral beliefs to do a gay wedding.


104 posted on 11/13/2016 9:09:43 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: Red Steel
Actually, you don't know what you're getting until after they have been given the inviolable tenure. Then you find out:

Warren. Brennan. Kennedy. Roberts.

105 posted on 11/13/2016 9:13:10 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: SeekAndFind

Clintoonie’s pimps in the far left national “media” are trying to instigate a bunch of BS. They’re hoping for some “buyer’s remorse” and “voter guilt.” Sorry, I’m not buying their commie bull****.


106 posted on 11/13/2016 9:21:57 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Barry! We Won!)
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To: imardmd1

I’ve given that some thought too. That’s why Trump should do some type of psychological evaluation for each prospect SCOTUS candidate for who would be the best not to get sucked into the DC cultural swamp or who is not compromised.


107 posted on 11/13/2016 9:37:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Loud Mime

Exactly... That’s why i say that Trump is wise not to push this yet. Wait until he knows the SCOTUS is leaning the RIGHT way.


108 posted on 11/13/2016 9:58:51 PM PST by proudpapa (Trump Pence 2016!!)
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To: dfwgator

Trump was specifically asked the homosexual “marriage” question during the primaries and said his personal view was marriage is the union of one man and one woman. He went on to say he would honor the SCOTUS ruling. The 60 minutes leftist was trying to get Trump to say something the media could pound him over the head with. Same thing on the abortion question. Trump knows full well if he can get a couple more constitutions on the court that homo “marriage” and the right of a woman to murder her child will eventually fall. He’s right.


109 posted on 11/13/2016 10:04:32 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

Only possible relief is a constitutional amendment, and that would be out of Trump’s hands. He’s fine with it, because he doesn’t want to deal with it, and he doesn’t have to. His plate is full. Most he’d be required to do is cheerlead or endorse the amendment drive.


110 posted on 11/14/2016 12:51:06 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Red Steel
I don't know what happens once a Supreme Court Justice is given carte blanche to remodel our ROE. I've read three books of the wise Robert H. Bork, and his only solutions to our predicament were:
(1) a religious revival;
(2) the revival of public discourse about morality;
(3) a cataclysmic war; or
(4) a deep economic depression.

As he said:

"Though there was increased social discipline during the
Second World War and, perhaps even more, during the Great
Depression, we may safely drop the last two items on that
list as, to say the least, social policies lacking broad
public support.
Perhaps the most promising development in our time is the
rise of an energetic, optomistic, and politically
sophisticated religious conservatism. . . . Because it is a
grass roots movement, the new religious conservatism can
alter the culture both by electing local officials and
school boards (which have greater effects on culture than
do national politicians), and by setting a moral tone in
opposition to today's(1996) liberal relativism."
["Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
Regan Books/HarperCollins Publishers, New York (1996) p. 336]

Remembering that this was penned no later than twenty years ago, and seeing the futility of the Tea Party movement alone, we can cling to the slim hope that this cliff-hanger Trump phenomenon may offer some footing for pushing back the liberalism radiating from our influential mediaplex as well as denominational church pulpits (hence schools, universities, and county boards) if true conservatives live long enough and push hard enough to displace the affections of our grandchildren from popular worldly globalistic culture back into a deep-rooted allegiance first to family, and after that permitting only reliable leaders to be seated, overseeing religious and policy-making in the community.

Now, I've said enough, and maybe even too much to be heard and grasped. I do one thing. I hold myself out as a discipler who can provide a systematic method to bring truly regenerated spiritual babes to maturity such that they can overcome the wicked influences surrounding us in a last-ditch, mutual-assistance, Fort-Apache-type final fortress of Bible-and-gun clingers.

Pray for all of us who are thus committed, and pass the ammunition figuratively--and also real if necessary.

111 posted on 11/14/2016 1:19:14 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Red Steel
An addendum to my last post:

You will note that Judge Bork held out no hope that societal change back to conservative values would be accomplished through appointment of sympathetic jurists.

The prompting must come from the force of coherent, durable family structures.

To this end, the old-time fiery preaching of decency and morality offers the greatest attack on the inroads of the figurative festering Sodom-and-Gomorrah-minded subculture that has been successfully gnawing at both root and leaf of the pioneering spirit needed to conquer future frontiers, physical and spiritual.

112 posted on 11/14/2016 1:37:27 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: SeekAndFind

That toothpaste ain’t going back in the tube - many more important things to worry about.


113 posted on 11/14/2016 2:10:06 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Just look at the number of Christian businesses that are being harassed by lawsuits and the government....

That's not the same as the marriage issue. That's a religious liberty issue. Trump has stated he will defend religious liberty.

114 posted on 11/14/2016 3:55:57 AM PST by southern rock
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To: Charles Henrickson

Then go rescind your vote & hang out at rightscoop with the rest of the never-trumpers, k?

Stahl tried to trap Trump with this question & Trump did the RIGHT thing with his answer. He didn’t change his mind on the issue. Trump’s not going to pull the trigger when the MSM points a gun at his head.

The MSM & never-trumpers still take everything Trump says literally. After losing horribly you’d think they’d have learned by now this is why their view was rejected.


115 posted on 11/14/2016 4:54:25 AM PST by TheStickman (Trump WON! Thank you, God in Heaven!)
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To: TheStickman

Thank you, but I’ll stay with the social and constitutional conservatives, without whose votes Trump could not have been elected.


116 posted on 11/14/2016 5:00:40 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Trump’s response to the trap Stahl set for him was brilliant. Sorry you can’t see that.


117 posted on 11/14/2016 5:08:50 AM PST by TheStickman (Trump WON! Thank you, God in Heaven!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Finally we have a man elected who understands how the system works. If the people want the law changed, then their Congress can change it. At that point, Trump will make his determination.
Until then, Trump is not going to worry about the law. He will leave that up to his AG and SCOTUS.


118 posted on 11/14/2016 5:17:22 AM PST by Demanwideplan
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To: dfwgator

That is correct. No matter who is President its basically a fact that opposition to gay marriage is going nowhere politically in the USA anytime as far as the eye can see.


119 posted on 11/14/2016 5:17:57 AM PST by Degaston
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To: P-Marlowe; bramps

There is no doubt that Trump said a while back that Scotus made a decision and settled the issue.

First, there is a legal and a vernacular meaning of ‘settled’. If I say, “It’s settled, we’re going to Gatlinburg next year to see the fall colors.”, that is the vernacular meaning of something having been agreed upon or decided up. The truth is that we could have unexpected bills and change our mind next summer.

The legal definition of “settled law” is law that has been in place so long or so often unsuccessfully challenged that “settled” becomes a synonym for undeniable, permanent.

Trump is not a lawyer. Does not speak like a lawyer and doesn’t even pretend to be a lawyer.

He was speaking in the common language and saying that Scotus had made a decision. So, even for me, the issue of “same sex marriage” has been decided by Scotus, and I don’t see any move afoot that will soon overturn it. They settled it for the time being.

Nor will a new conservative replacement for Scalia make any difference. The fifth vote for it was the so-called libertarian/conservative justice, Anthony Kennedy. Kennedy is still there, and he’s not changed his mind


120 posted on 11/14/2016 5:39:05 AM PST by xzins
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