Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections

Federation for American Immigration Reform ^ | 11/2016 | Federation for American Immigration Reform

[justiceseeker93]

Election fraud is something the Trump administration MUST address/fix.

Amen! We should not allow the Trump victory to obscure this issue. It would be a bad mistake to dismiss it, thinking wrongly that it is moot because Trump won despite of the massive 'Rat fraud and cheating.

Aside from the widely suggested idea of a voter photo ID requirement in every state, it is obvious that a requirement that voters upon registration present proof of American citizenship - either a birth certificate showing birth in the US or its possessions or naturalization papers - before they can be allowed to register, would do much to alleviate this problem.

In the meantime, we have to have the courage to arrest and criminally charge and prosecute aliens who vote or who attempt to vote. If they are found to be voting at a polling place, they should be hauled into the nearest police station for processing, not lauded by the POTUS.

Also, we have to clean up the Motor Voter procedures, or better yet, repeal the Motor Voter Act in its entirety.

[Rome2000]

Job one is voter reform, over 5 million illegals voted for that crooked bitch on Tuesday.

No way that can be allowed to happen again.

National voter ID card No motor voter, no card no vote.

Reverse the demographic shift and stop all immigration.

Then neutralize the domestic Marxist leadership in the government, press, and academia using all means necessary.

This is a goddamned war, we got lucky, no time to mess around.

DESTROY these MF’s before they destroy us.

[null and void]

You can say that again!

[The Toll]

Election Day is one day. One freakin day! Not two weeks of fraud.

[FreedomPoster]

Dubya really fell down on the job in not addressing the issue of election fraud and such in the wake of all the nonsense in FL in 2000. One of many areas.

[Brown Deer]

lol

[Art in Idaho]

They MUST get rid of Motor Voter.

Citizens should have to register in person at their County Court house and show verifiable id. This is how it was done before Clinton rammed the motor voter law in 1994.

Clinton signing Motor-Voter with Cloward and Piven Watching

Discover the Networks Cloward-Piven Strategy

Discover the Networks Francis Fox Piven

National Review Frances Fox Piven’s Violent Agenda

We've all been duped! These communists, Clintons included, have been trying to destroy our Sacred Republic for years and the press always covers for them.

We won a battle on November 8 but we are still at War with the left. We have to fight them tooth and nail and Yes, we somehow have to get Motor-Voter repealed. I was super busy in 93 and didn't even know this was passed. I'm sure the press didn't give it much coverage. Cloward and Piven gloating behind Bill Clinton. This was there ticket to get the illegals to vote.

[hoosiermama]

Penalty must be severe: any alien caught voting illegally should be immediately deported and never be allowed in country or a chance for citizenship

[Rome2000]

Exactly.

Time to stop the insanity and CRUCIFY DOMESTIC ENEMIES.

Literally.

[monkeyshine]

There was a video circulating where white people at the universities in NY were asked by the host about their thoughts on voter ID laws. They said the usual stuff you hear, that African Americans are less likely to have access to IDs, to get a ride to the DMV to obtain an ID, that these efforts are racist attempts to disenfranchise black voters etc. Then the host went to Harlem and asked African Americans if they had ID on them, if they know where the DMV is, if they would have trouble getting there if they needed to, and if they knew anyone at all who doesn’t have an ID. The people in Harlem had the opposite reactions from the white people - they said those opinions held by the whites on tape were insulting, and that the basis of their arguments were that Blacks were too ignorant to be good citizens. Most of the African Americans thought showing ID to vote is a good idea, and that possessing an ID was “one of the things that you must have to walk around the city” (though I think they are incorrect on this point, not sure about NY laws, but there is a certain irony because...)

The irony is that you need an ID for nearly everything else other than voting. If you are a poor person and need to take the bus to the DMV to get your ID so you can vote, you need to have an ID to get your subsidized bus pass! Otherwise you pay retail! If you want benefits, you must show ID. You want to buy liquor or cigarettes (or now, legal weed) or want drink in a bar or restaurant you need to show an ID! The entire argument that asking for ID is an infringement is turned on its head when you realize that nearly every social program designed to help the people who the left claim will be disenfranchised by voter ID laws requires that the program recipient present ID to get the benefits! And to make routine transactions. Try opening a bank account without ID. The left’s argument is really just a line of defense to preserve the institutionalized fraud at the precinct level. Because the left has instituted dozens of ID requirements that infringe the rights of the poor to live and work and commute and engage in commerce.

Not to mention that lack of an ID would still not prevent anyone from voting. Even in the case where no ID is available, voter ID laws are written so as to permit a voter to cast a vote anyway. It will be a provisional vote on a provisional ballot, and it will be verified independently and counted independently... and if the number of provisional ballots would not change the outcome they would be blended into the total. If they number could change the outcome they would be challenged individually by the candidates which is fair. So even in the worst case scenario there is no attempt to disenfranchise any voter. It is just an attempt to avoid disenfranchisement by diluting legitimate votes with fraudulent votes. Look at the NH vote as a prime example... only a few 100 people willing to cast a handful of phony votes at different precincts could usurp the political will of the electorate. Suffrage has to be protected from both sides - protected from attempts to inhibit legitimate votes as well as by protecting the value of legitimate votes from dilution caused by fraudulent votes.

IMO, Congress should allocate money to expunge the voter rolls for federal offices and provide funds to standardize the type of ballots used. IMO no computer voting, but computers could be used to print paper ballots. As long as the ballot allows for the voter to double check before dropping the ballot. Counting of ballots should be done in the precinct in front of the voters, before sending the ballots off to the county officials. Votes can be tabulated with simple “scan tron” type machines that are basically unhackable. They just tabulate the instances of light or dark, as in bubble forms or punched chads. Simple, familiar and easy. This way the people will have independent means of verification by watching the count and comparing notes from the various precincts - no shenanigans at the county level, no stuffing after the fact, no adding or switching out ballot boxes could because every precinct is counted independently. We need a fair, transparent and simple method of voting and counting votes to instill confidence and to protect the value of each vote.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Change the law to make it not illegal but mandatory to photograph each voter when he/she obtains a ballot.

IMHO that would make a serious dent in the problem all by itself.

[Wneighbor]

Another good find my FRiend. More hope for a great America for my grandkids :)

[qaz123]

With all the technology and innovation in this country, they could solve this problem if they really wanted to. In Georgia we show ID, they swipe the strip on the back of the ID card and you show up in the database. While I’m no fan of big government anything, if they up the ante and need me to do some biometric screening in order to reduce/eliminate the fraud, then let it happen.

If it weren’t for the illegals and folks voting more than once, I think this country would be in much better shape than it is now.

[TwelveOfTwenty]

I just read that article. It would seem the electoral vote just saved us from having illegals choose our next President.

That link should be posted in reply to every leftist post that tell us Hillary won the popular vote.

[bert]

The non citizens votes were permitted and counted in cities where corruption prevails.

The goal should be to end the corruption by ending the corrupt