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Caddell: It Feels Like 1980
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | October 31, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/31/2016 5:21:48 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Now, let's move on to 1980. This Indiana poll, I don't want to get ahead of myself here. But I have to tell you -- and I know it's Indiana, but Monmouth, they're at the top of the poll in terms of respect and credibility in this particular polling season. I don't know. Maybe some of you expected to see a state poll with Trump up by 11 a week out, but I didn't. And I will guarantee you the Hillary camp didn't expect to see it. And they may try say, "Well, of course. It's Indiana. Of course."

What do you mean, of course? As far as the Clinton campaign's concerned, Trump is unsuited. He's unfit. He's ill-tempered. He's a boor. He's crass. He's a misogynist. He curses, does all these low-rent things. And according to them, nobody ought to have anything good to say or think about Trump. But then they see this poll of Trump up 11, "Oh, of course, it's Indiana." What do you mean, "What do you expect, it's Indiana"?

I'm just telling you, my considered opinion is that there are people all over this country in the Democrat Party who are literally upside down with fright and panic over what Comey did Friday. But more than that, it's not just what Comey did. I think the truth is that most of them know she did it. She did something that's not kosher. She did something that's wrong, and so did Obama.

They know Obama lied about her server and when he knew about it. They know he lied about not using it. They know he made up a fake name to communicate with her on it. They know he lied about Obamacare. They know how unpopular that is. If they're actually telling themselves that they're sitting at the top of the of the heap and this country cannot wait to elect Hillary Clinton, they are in a state of denial. So we move forward to audio sound bite number nine. Pat Caddell was on the Fox report last night on the Fox News Channel, being interviewed by Harris Faulkner. Here's how it went.

CADDELL: I think we're already seeing signs that this could be like 1980, which is the previously -- and I was on the wrong side of that one -- the only election which went in close and came out big because events started pushing the boat, and I believe, given the structure of attitudes against what's been going on overall in the country, that helps.

RUSH: Okay. Let's go back to 1980. We dug up even more sound bites from 1980. Back to NBC, November 4th, election night, 1980, John Chancellor and he's talking about Helen Thomas, 'cause they're in a state of shock. They expected Carter to win. All the polls had Carter up by nine, and Reagan has won a landslide. They announced it an hour and 10 minutes after going on the air. At 8:10 p.m. California still had almost two hours left to vote, three hours left to vote. And they'd already called it a landslide, so now they're talking about what the hell happened.

CHANCELLOR: Well, let me tell you what Helen Thomas of the UP reported tonight. She's learned that the president was informed Monday night that samplings taken by pollster Pat Caddell showed it was "all over," in those quotes.

RUSH: Pat Caddell was Carter's pollster, and they knew the weekend before the election that it was all over. But Pat Caddell didn't tell John Chancellor. They didn't tell anybody else. But Helen Thomas of UPI found out about it. And then Brokaw and Judy Woodruff discussed it but I have to take a break here. We'll get to them when we get back.

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RUSH: Here's Tom Brokaw, Judy Woodruff discussing Reagan coming out of nowhere, ostensibly, and beating Jimmy Carter in 1980, and they're referring to Pat Caddell, who says that he is beginning to sense this election has the same feel that he had in 1980 when Reagan came out of nowhere to beat Carter. Here's Woodruff and Brokaw.

BROKAW: Pat Caddell was saying that it broke bad for them over the weekend, that the Iranian hostage situation was the final undoing. They can't believe it was only that, though, do they?

WOODRUFF: Well, that is what Pat Caddell is saying. I'm sure you're aware there are other pollsters who will have other points of view on that. I know that Bob Teeter, who has done some polling for the Republicans, has said that the trend was obvious early last week when the undecided voters started breaking toward Reagan, most of them toward Reagan and not toward Carter.

And that was exactly what the Carter campaign had been counting on all along. The very heavily negative Reagan speeches the president was making, the commercials on television they were running were anti-Reagan, anti-Reagan, and they hoped that that would, in the end, put the pressure on, bring the undecided voters and the Anderson supporters back to the president. It didn't happen. They've gone to Reagan.

RUSH: That's why Caddell seems to feel it's somewhat -- look, nobody's predicting 1980 is gonna take place here. It's just Pat Caddell was there, he's a Carterite and he says he's getting the same kind of feeling. Back in 1980, with all these negative ads running in the last week against Reagan -- and I remember them. And, folks, the Democrats' strategy hasn't changed. Reagan was yesterday's racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, no business being in politics, a B-rated movie actor. Yeah, he was governor of California, but that didn't count for anything. Reagan was a slow thinking, plodding, amiable dunce kind of thing, never, ever took him seriously.

And it dovetails with the same tactics that Hillary and the Democrats are using about Trump. No business being in politics, this guy's a reality TV star, hotels and casinos. He's got in business being in politics. He's a reprobate, doesn't know what he's doing. And yet there are people daily now moving into the Trump camp. So it is what it is, and nobody knows yet how this is gonna end up. Let's be clear and remind everybody of that again.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1980; caddell; carter; clinton; donaldtrump; hillary; hillaryclinton; jimmycarter; limbaugh; patcaddell; patrickcaddell; reagan; ronaldreagan; rush; rushlimbaugh; trump
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1 posted on 10/31/2016 5:21:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Of course the electorate was different back in 1980. Today we have more 3rd world immigrants for example. In 1980, CA went for Reagan. That’s unlikely to happen this year.


2 posted on 10/31/2016 5:28:40 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Kaslin
Notice how all the Reagan states were blue?

The reason for the flip to show dim states as blue is that red historically has been associated with radicals and communism.

Media couldn't have that imagery so they flipped them.

3 posted on 10/31/2016 5:29:11 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Kaslin

Heard pat express those feelings last nite.

He’s “been there, done that”


4 posted on 10/31/2016 5:34:06 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Signalman

I agree...gosh this is so nerve wracking! Polls are all over the place..I just hope and pray emailgate will bring the witch from hell down!!!


5 posted on 10/31/2016 5:35:13 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: ealgeone

I had bought my first VCR that day, and when I finally got it hooked up and turned on TV, first sight was a sea of blue behind John Chancellor

One of the most exciting moments of my life

I still have that tape somewhere


6 posted on 10/31/2016 5:37:08 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Unsecured email ALONE renders hilLIAR INcompetent to be CIC . . .)
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To: ealgeone

They all went red at the same time including Fox. We should demand a network let us be blue again. It was such a media coordinated sham.


7 posted on 10/31/2016 5:41:26 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Signalman

Yes, there is no denying that the electorate is demographically quite different than it was in 1980. And, there is no denying that the education system is churning out a greater proportion of, not to be harsh, very ignorant young voters.

However, there is a big factor, on the other side of the equation, that doesn’t get mentioned enough. Back in 1980, the democrat party was *nothing* like the democrat party of today. There were still responsible, patriotic, and generally good people throughout the party. The party never would have gone for a fraction of the truly bizarre and outlandish things that now make up their mainstream platform. In other words, a good, decent, common-sense citizen could still vote democrat, and not be a complete idiot, or a completely selfish person.

There is a much greater pool of potential “Reagan voters” out there, because the political process is so much more broken than it was back then. And yes, that pool of potential “Reagan voters” can include people who were not born here.

The question, ultimately, is this: which is a greater force — the demographic changes, or the vacuum created by the massive shift leftward on the part of both parties? I don’t know, but suspect we will find out in the next week.


8 posted on 10/31/2016 5:42:32 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Kaslin

Shepard Smith breathlessly reported it was Hillary up 11 in Indiana, until his guest pointed out they had it reversed.


9 posted on 10/31/2016 5:42:44 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Luke21

Maybe the dems would waste their time and money in CA and NY.


10 posted on 10/31/2016 5:44:36 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kaslin

In all of politics, the one place I’d have liked to have been was on AIR FORCE ONE that Monday night flying back to DC when Pat told Jimmuh it was over, they had no chance. I’d have paid all I had at the time to have watched PEANUT BRAIN react.


11 posted on 10/31/2016 5:49:18 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him); Charles Martel for President)
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To: Signalman

Yeah thats why this talk of a Trump landslide is silly.

Something like 15-20% less white voters now, its mathematically impossible for ANY GOP nominee to win a true landslide now. We can do those at the state level and in midterms. But 300 EV’s is do-able and would be pretty sweet.

We need to work, vote & pray. Nothing for granted.


12 posted on 10/31/2016 5:52:01 PM PDT by Bruiser78
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To: Kaslin

I remember 1980 but from my own vantage point it feels like 1996. That was the year of the militias and widespread training. President Mr Bill with his Democrat Congress were throwing off blazing signals that they intended to end the private possession of guns. Gun sales went through the roof and gun prices skyrocketed because the factories could not ramp up production fast enough. Then came the election itself. The Republicans swept Congress and the prices went down to old normal within a couple of weeks. There was a lot of angst there. Many many people thought we were at the point of armed resistance to tyranny. Election day brought a mass sigh of relief that could almost be heard through the neighborhood.


13 posted on 10/31/2016 5:53:08 PM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: Kaslin
Indiana, by 11?

I was at early voting Saturday afternoon, in Greenwood Indiana.

90 plus minutes in line and when I left the line was longer!

It's a Conservative area but the Trump signs have been cut down and replaced several times. Today the line was still over 90 minutes long!

We are not a "bell weather" state, just my report, my experience so far.

14 posted on 10/31/2016 6:00:58 PM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: ealgeone

It got successfully flipped because most conservatives instantly accepted the PC change as conservatives tend to do.


15 posted on 10/31/2016 6:01:06 PM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: Kaslin

I was in a big store today in PA and the three clerks were talking back and forth between two registers and it was about their health insurance premiums going up and they were incensed. Thu was a man and two women talking and they were over age thirty. The guy was saying, I’m already working two jobs, I don’t know what I’m going to do. The women were knocking Hillary and they didn’t like the VP guy either. They didn’t seem to know Kaine’s name but they didn’t like Hillary’s VP guy. These are Caucasian union workers who work hard and are very vocal about how upset they are and they’re watching the news about her emails and they said to the effect, good it’s coming out because they don’t want her in office, not after eight years of Obama.


16 posted on 10/31/2016 6:01:58 PM PDT by Ciexyz (After eight years of Obama, I can't afford to buy nothin'.)
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To: ealgeone

>>The reason for the flip to show dim states as blue is that red historically has been associated with radicals and communism.
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I know every time I see that red-blue map, it annoys and irritates me. I used to wonder why the GOP just accepted that switch. I don’t wonder about it now.


17 posted on 10/31/2016 6:02:31 PM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Ciexyz

Got my monthly haircut today. My barber asked who I’m voting for. I said Trump, and he was happy because he was for Trump, too.

All the barbers were for Trump! Not old guys, all young Russian guys from Brooklyn.

Lots of anecdotal evidence that something is happening out there.

#MAGA


18 posted on 10/31/2016 6:07:03 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Kaslin

I am looking forward to it being Morning in America again.


19 posted on 10/31/2016 6:11:30 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: ealgeone
That's baloney.

They used to alternate between red and blue, and many years ago I remember networks having opposite color schemes in the same election year.

The 2000 election changed that, because the red/blue color scheme for that election stayed undecided for many weeks after Election Day and was a regular feature on nightly news reports. People just got used to it, so the networks kept it that way.

20 posted on 10/31/2016 6:16:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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