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Putin Asks: "Is America Now A Banana Republic"
zerohedge.com ^ | 10/27/16 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 10/27/2016 10:31:18 AM PDT by ColdOne

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To: buwaya
I can’t help but think that actually trying to occupy and run the Ukraine, a basket-case, would break Russia. They have to go normal at some point because war and preparations for war are expensive.

When they ultimately grab control of the oil/gas-rich Middle East, plus access to the 100+ billion freed to their close allies in Iran, cash will be not be a problem.

81 posted on 10/27/2016 12:21:08 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: sten
honestly, i believe Putin loves America more then 0bama

As did probably Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

82 posted on 10/27/2016 12:25:25 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: Lazamataz

Same here.


83 posted on 10/27/2016 12:28:27 PM PDT by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~#MAGA)
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To: ColdOne

Smart man.


84 posted on 10/27/2016 12:33:38 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: ColdOne
Putin Asks: "Is America Now A Banana Republic"

As for "Banana Republic", "Mr Putin", you sure run Russia as though it were one, with your ordered killings of political opponents and critics.

85 posted on 10/27/2016 12:42:45 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: buwaya
>He’s right.
Though he may yet attack Ukraine.
I don’t see it though, that would be a terribly costly mess for no gain at all.

Won't happen unless Ukraine joins NATO or the US attacks Syria. Ukraine is a huge resource sink that Russia doesn't want to directly rule.

86 posted on 10/27/2016 12:43:05 PM PDT by RedWulf (Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap Time.)
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To: ETL

“When they ultimately grab control of the oil/gas-rich Middle East, plus access to the 100+ billion freed to their close allies in Iran, cash will be not be a problem.”

A pipe dream. Oil&Gas are, under modern technological means, common and there is a price limit to them. Maintaining an empire will be costly and probably isn’t cost-effective.


87 posted on 10/27/2016 12:43:55 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: ColdOne

Actually we are a hopelessly indebted Banana Republic with nukes being run by a cabal of the criminally insane.


88 posted on 10/27/2016 12:52:16 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: buwaya
A pipe dream. Oil&Gas are, under modern technological means, common and there is a price limit to them. Maintaining an empire will be costly and probably isn’t cost-effective.

Sorry, my mistake. I've been under the silly assumption that the oil and gas businesses were enormous money makers, especially when just steps in and takes over other people's already established companies in mafia-like style.

89 posted on 10/27/2016 12:54:39 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: ColdOne

The answer to his question really depends on who “wins” the election...


90 posted on 10/27/2016 12:55:34 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: ColdOne

Whenever the spouse of a former President is a serious candidate for President, you are living in a banana republic.


91 posted on 10/27/2016 12:57:44 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: ColdOne

With 90 percent of the mainstream media propping up her hineass, you decide.


92 posted on 10/27/2016 1:02:53 PM PDT by McGruff (Time for a Tea Party II)
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To: McGruff
With 90 percent of the mainstream media propping up her hineass, you decide.

C'mon McGruff, as a longtime Putinista you know that your guy KGB Putin would much rather have Hillary in there.

93 posted on 10/27/2016 1:13:07 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: McGruff

Here's Trump's VP, Mike Pence, on Obama, Hillary, Russia, Syria and the Ukraine...

From the Oct 5, 2016 first VP debate...

“When Donald Trump and I observe that, as I’ve said, in Syria, in Iran, in Ukraine, that the small and bullying leader of Russia has been stronger on the world stage than this administration, that’s stating painful facts. That’s not an endorsement of Vladimir Putin — that’s an indictment of the weak and feckless leadership of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”

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Also from the Oct 5, 2016 first VP debate...

QUIJANO (Moderator): I want to turn now to Syria. Two hundred fifty thousand people, 100,000 of them children, are under siege in Aleppo, Syria. Bunker buster bombs, cluster munitions, and incendiary weapons are being dropped on them by Russian and Syrian militaries. Does the U.S. have a responsibility to protect civilians and prevent mass casualties on this scale, Governor Pence?

PENCE: The United States of America needs to begin to exercise strong leadership to protect the vulnerable citizens and over 100,000 children in Aleppo. Hillary Clinton’s top priority when she became secretary of state was the Russian reset, the Russians reset.

After the Russian reset, the Russians invaded Ukraine and took over Crimea.

And the small and bullying leader of Russia is now dictating terms to the United States to the point where all the United States of America — the greatest nation on Earth — just withdraws from talks about a cease-fire while Vladimir Putin puts a missile defense system in Syria while he marshals the forces and begins — look, we have got to begin to lean into this with strong, broad-shouldered American leadership.

It begins by rebuilding our military. And the Russians and the Chinese have been making enormous investments in the military. We have the smallest Navy since 1916. We have the lowest number of troops since the end of the Second World War. We’ve got to work with Congress, and Donald Trump will, to rebuild our military and project American strength in the world.

But about Aleppo and about Syria, I truly do believe that what America ought to do right now is immediately establish safe zones, so that families and vulnerable families with children can move out of those areas, work with our Arab partners, real time, right now, to make that happen.

And secondly, I just have to tell you that the provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength.

And if Russia chooses to be involved and continue, I should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the Assad regime to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis that is taking place in Aleppo.

There’s a broad range of other things that we ought to do, as well. We ought to deploy a missile defense shield to the Czech Republic and Poland which Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pulled back on out of not wanting to offend the Russians back in 2009.

QUIJANO: Governor, your two minutes are up.

PENCE: We’ve just got to have American strength on the world stage. When Donald Trump becomes president of the United States, the Russians and other countries in the world will know they’re dealing with a strong American president.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/vice-president-transcript.html

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PENCE: What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.

And all the while, all we do is fold our arms and say we’re not having talks anymore.

To answer your question, we just need American strength. We need to — we need to marshal the resources of our allies in the region, and in the immediate, we need to act and act now to get people out of harm’s way.

94 posted on 10/27/2016 1:14:17 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: McGruff

Russia Deploying Tactical Nuclear Arms in Crimea

Obama backing indirect talks with Moscow aimed at cutting U.S. non-strategic nukes in Europe

BY: Bill Gertz
October 10, 2014

Russia is moving tactical nuclear weapons systems into recently-annexed Crimea while the Obama administration is backing informal talks aimed at cutting U.S. tactical nuclear deployments in Europe. ..."

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-deploying-tactical-nuclear-arms-in-crimea/

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Donald Trump: 'Putin has eaten Obama's lunch' on Ukraine

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098

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 photo Ukraine - Crimea - Middle East 04_zpskowph7ak.jpg

Ignore the red and orange lines. They were already on the map when I downloaded it.


95 posted on 10/27/2016 1:15:17 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: buwaya

Putin wouldn’t attack Ukraine. What would be the point of that?

He’s got the Crimea back and access to the Black Sea. Its a 350 year Russian project


96 posted on 10/27/2016 1:19:26 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: ColdOne
Putin Asks: "Is America Now A Banana Republic"

If Hilldog is elected, you're damned right it will be a banana republic!

97 posted on 10/27/2016 1:32:42 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: ETL

That works just fine if one can just take over in mafia like style, and not spend a lot of $ making sure you keep them.

Works in Russia.

But in the ME? You will be constantly at war and trying to keep the population suppressed.


98 posted on 10/27/2016 1:39:41 PM PDT by buwaya
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