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Vanity: I need proof Planned Parenthood doesn't provide medical care
10/21/16 | me

Posted on 10/21/2016 11:52:00 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001

Can anyone provide solid evidence that I can use on FB to shut down the imbeciles that vomit up crap about all the 'good' PP does?

Thanks


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KEYWORDS: abortion; pp
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To: spacejunkie2001

They by and large do mammagrams in the same way that the Clinton Foundation does philanthropy.

But they do provide relatively inexpensive birth control to many, many, many women.


21 posted on 10/21/2016 12:18:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: spacejunkie2001

Planned Parenthood Paid $3 for Birth Control but Billed Medicaid $35, Former Manager Says

Daily Signal ^ | 11/12/15 | Kelsey Harkness / FR Posted by markomalley

EXCERPT—A little-known whistleblower lawsuit accuses Planned Parenthood clinics in Iowa of wrongly siphoning millions of American taxpayer dollars with a series of complicated billing schemes aimed at increasing profits.

Among other dishonest practices, a former manager of the clinics alleges, Planned Parenthood staffers routinely purchased birth control pills for just under $3, billed Medicaid $35 for the same package of pills, and got reimbursed for $26. The lawsuit, brought by Sue Thayer, a 17-year employee of Planned Parenthood in Iowa, coincides with a national scandal over undercover videos that show the organization’s officials in other states talking about the sale of body parts from aborted babies.

The series of videos, hotly disputed by Planned Parenthood Federation of America, triggered renewed efforts by conservative lawmakers to strip taxpayer dollars from the nation’s largest provider of abortions.

In her suit, Thayer alleges multiple accounts of fraud, waste and abuse in the Iowa clinics that add up to nearly $28 million. Her allegations raise both ethical and legal questions at a time when the national Planned Parenthood organization faces a hostile climate in Washington, D.C., and beyond.

From April 1991 to December 2008, Thayer managed Planned Parenthood’s clinic in Storm Lake, Iowa. From 1993 to 1997, she also was center manager of the clinic in LeMars, Iowa. The two locations since have been consolidated into Planned Parenthood of the Heartland. Thayer says she was fired at the end of 2008 after raising concerns about “webcam abortions”—a controversial practice that allows Planned Parenthood doctors to dispense abortion-inducing pills to clients remotely using video-conferencing equipment.

Planned Parenthood of the Heartland calls Thayer a “disgruntled former employee.” In an email to The Daily Signal, it said: “We deny those allegations and have no other statement to make on that case.”

Thayer maintains she’s anything but disgruntled. She continues to move forward with her lawsuit, and testified before Congress in October about her experience inside the nation’s largest abortion provider. “I really feel like, as a taxpayer, as a mom, as a lover of life, it’s my job to try to shed light on what goes on in there,” Thayer told The Daily Signal in an exclusive interview. “I know they’re not being honest.”

Medicaid Billed for More Than 10 Times Cost of Pills

By privately negotiating a deal with Ortho Tri-Cyclen Lo, a birth control prescription manufactured by Janssen Pharmaceuticals, Thayer said the Iowa clinics were able to purchase birth control pills for $2.89 per 28-day cycle.

In late October, The Daily Signal emailed both Ortho Tri-Cyclen Lo and Janssen to confirm these numbers, but neither has responded.

Thayer then said Planned Parenthood of the Heartland would bill Medicaid $35 for each birth control package, and be reimbursed about $26 by Iowa Medicaid authorities.

Medicaid, a government-run health care program, provides free services to low-income families and individuals. When a patient on Medicaid seeks treatment at one of Planned Parenthood’s more than 600 locations, the organization bills Medicaid on that patient’s behalf.

Medicaid programs use what are called “open fee schedules” to set compensation levels for prescriptions such as birth control.

According to Iowa Medicaid’s current open fee schedule, providers such as Planned Parenthood are allowed to be compensated $25.36 for each package of contraceptives (or 92 cents a pill).

The Daily Signal called and emailed Iowa Medicaid multiple times to ask what it considers “excessive” charging by providers for prescriptions, and what safeguards are in place to prevent fraud, waste and abuse. A spokeswoman for Iowa Medicaid said cost for prescriptions such as birth control pills “is based on established national pricing” and that a number of safeguards are in place to protect against fraud. She said:

The Iowa Medicaid Enterprise Program Integrity Unit regularly reviews payments to all providers to assure that providers are not fraudulently billing for services. If any billing and/or payment irregularities are discovered, resolution includes recoupment of any overpayments, all the way up to referral to the state’s Medicaid Fraud Control Unit and, where warranted, to the U.S. attorney.

‘Unusual’ Arrangement

Casey Mattox, a senior attorney at Alliance Defending Freedom who represents Thayer, called the alleged profits Planned Parenthood of the Heartland made from birth control subscriptions “unusual.”

“Medicaid providers, particularly nonprofits, usually don’t make money off their Medicaid patients,” Mattox said in an email to The Daily Signal. “But Planned Parenthood is unlike most nonprofit Medicaid providers in that its own annual reports show $127 million in profit last year and $765 million profit over the last decade.”

Mattox calls this profit margin an example of “waste and abuse,” but says it’s not necessarily proof of fraud:

While Planned Parenthood makes a lot of money from abortions, in some states birth control pills are also its cash cow. A federal government program makes contraceptives available cheap to Planned Parenthood but allows states to set the reimbursement rates, even though [the government] pays 90 percent of the cost for contraceptives for Medicaid-eligible women. Iowa has allowed Planned Parenthood to make a major profit on every cycle of contraceptives.

Unlike most health care providers, which prescribe only drugs, Planned Parenthood clinics both prescribe and dispense prescriptions, allowing its clinics to control the price and volume of prescriptions.

Ed Haislmaier, an expert in health care policy and markets at The Heritage Foundation, said Planned Parenthood’s unique structure increases the opportunity for fraud.

“Cost equals volume times price,” Haislmaier said, adding:

Snip-—more posted on FR


22 posted on 10/21/2016 12:18:43 PM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

“Medical Care” suggests treating a disease or disorder.

PP considers pregnancy a disease, so yes they eliminate the unborn.

I was wondering if PP provides contraception, but that would limit their money making function of abortion, so probably not.

Cosmetic breast reduction/enlargement for mental wellbeing might be another, because you don’t need breasts to feed dead babies.


23 posted on 10/21/2016 12:22:34 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: spacejunkie2001
FBI TIPS PAGE--YOU MAY REMAIN ANONYMOUS ---https://tips.fbi.gov

SUBJECT: Collusion, conspiracy, bribery
IN RE: financial irregularities
REFERENCE: govt fraud, falsified documents, wire transfers, accounting fraud, etc.

NARRATIVE Taxpayers demand to know the scope and dimension of multiple conspiracies to collude in sub rosa deals to personally profit and/or to facilitate illegal sales of baby body parts.

OF INTEREST TO LAW ENFORCEMENT The FBI should interrogate individuals at Stem Express and its affiliated companies and Planned Parenthood for evidence of multiple schemes to falsify official documents to further fraudulent schemes, and the filing of official documents that were falsified. The FBI should investigate any and all official documents submitted for falsified entries.

Crimes might include--govt fraud, conspiracy, collusion, falsifying official documents (a felony), filing falsified documents, money laundering, tax evasion, extortion, theft, misuse of public facilities.

Examine tax returns of Stem Express and its affiliates and Planned Parenthood... particularly entries for "interest income."

Taxpayers demand investigation by the following agencies commence at once:

<><> FBI -- Wire Fraud Division

<><> IRS-Fraud Unit

<><> Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General,

<><> Department of Commerce’s Office of Inspector General.

<><> DOJ's Criminal Division-- Public Integrity Section

<><> DOJ Criminal Division--Organized Crime and Gang Section.

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24 posted on 10/21/2016 12:22:43 PM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: spacejunkie2001
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It is also possible that Planned Parenthood committed other federal offenses including but not limited to:

<><> Title 18 U.S.C. §1341, Mail Fraud, 18 U.S.C.§1001, Presenting a False Document to an Agent of the US Government (involves several felonies and could include forgery);

<><> 18 U.S.C.§1027 False statements and concealment of facts in relation to documents required by the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 and other possible offenses including civiland/or criminal RICO violations.

<><> 18 U.S.C. §§1961-68 (RICO Act)18 U.S.C. §1001 (making false Statements to Agents of the US Government),

<><> 18 U.S.C. §241(Conspiracies Against Civil Rights).

Possibly full investigations crentering on RICO conspiracies under 18 U.S.C. §1962(c) could be warranted because (1) the persons (2) were employed by or associated with an enterprise (3) that engaged in or affected interstate commerce and that (4) the persons operated or managed the enterprise (5) through a "pattern" (6) of racketeering activity, and (7) the taxpayers were injured by reason of the "pattern" of racketeering activity.

Alleged Offenses could include Violation of Title 18 U.S.C. §241 – Conspiracy Against Constitutional Rights – which prohibits in relevant part, “two or more persons (from conspiring) to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same . . .” See, 18 U.S.C. §241.

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THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD MOPlanned Parenthood of the Gulf Coast paid $4.3 million resolve civil allegations under the False Claims Act, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas. That settlement resolved a lawsuit filed by Karen Reynolds, a former medical assistant for a Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast clinic in Lufkin, Texas.

In a statement, the Justice Department said: The government alleges that between 2003 and 2009, Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast billed and was paid by government programs, Texas Medicaid, Title XX, and the Women’s Health Program, for certain items and services related to birth control counseling, STD testing and contraceptives when such items and services were either not medically necessary, not medically indicated or not actually provided.

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Planned Parenthood connived to dramatically increase revenues by converting a voluntary C-Mail program to a mandatory program. The Iowa clinics eliminated follow-up exams and mailed each client at least a 12-menstrual-cycle supply of contraceptives in three-month increments. To increase profits, Planned Parenthood began sending three prescriptions to clients every 63 days...a 21-day overage.

By the end of 2008, at least 7,000 Medicaid- eligible women were enrolled in the C-Mail contraceptive program. If they moved or refused the pills they'd come back in a brown mailer then sent to inventory. PP would slap on a new sticker and sell them to the next patient.... without ever crediting the first womans account.

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TWO MAJOR POINTS:

(1) PP CLIENTS FODDER FOR THE LUCRATIVE BABY PARTS INDUSTRY......we need to determine what percentage of women given birth control who later came back for abortions. PP's game seems to be gulling sexually active women into thinking they're protected. The scheme to withhold examinations forces women back into their clinics for abortions....giving PP baby body parts to sell.

(2) GOVT FRAUD BY MAIL----PP using the US mails to pull off govt fraud needs to be reported.

REPORT MAIL FRAUD HERE:
https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/contactUs/filecomp laint.aspx

25 posted on 10/21/2016 12:23:41 PM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

They do provide some care. Consider it a loss-leader for their real business.

If you are arguing about whether PP is providing some medical care, the discussion has wandered away from the real problem.


26 posted on 10/21/2016 12:24:35 PM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: spacejunkie2001
Planned Parenthood toots their horn on breast cancer screening... but VERY FEW clinics have mammogram machines.

They are giving false reassurances to women who quite possibly are in an early stage of cancer where that cancer could be treated easily..

This situation would be an outrage if Republicans were doing a similar ‘screening’... an ineffective screening that put people's lives at risk.

27 posted on 10/21/2016 12:25:40 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "An honest public servant can't become rich in politics" - - President Harry S. Truman)
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To: DoughtyOne
PPH does provide access/referrals/payment for pap smears and mammography in a handful of rural areas. That care is miniscule compared to the illness they cure, pregnancy.
28 posted on 10/21/2016 12:29:31 PM PDT by buckalfa (I am deplorable.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

It was many years ago, in college, but my then-girlfriend used to go to PP for pap tests and related care.


29 posted on 10/21/2016 12:29:34 PM PDT by gdani
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To: spacejunkie2001

What they consider “medical care” consists of STD tests, breast cancer screenings (not mammograms, but manual breast exams like people can do themselves), and distributing contraception. Anything else, they just refer people to other medical care providers.

The only major medical procedures they actually perform are abortions.


30 posted on 10/21/2016 12:31:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: buckalfa

I agree with that. That’s why I’d fund only the offices that do offer some alternative services in the rural areas.

The others could simply close down. There are alternative resource in the cities.


31 posted on 10/21/2016 12:36:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (18 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: spacejunkie2001

To generalize

1 Abortion = 1 service

But everything up to that abortion, screening, tests, birth control discussion, condom disbursement, referral to mammogram elsewhere, etc. all count each as 1 service too.

A woman can walk in and get an abortion.
1 Abortion = 1 service count
But receive a whole host of other mundane services.
1 condom = 1 service count

That’s how they figure their low volume of abortion services in comparison to overall services...and they wouldn’t be there in the first place except they were looking for an abortion.


32 posted on 10/21/2016 12:39:05 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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To: jalisco555

Yep.

That’s their cover. It’s like a Mafia front.

Some “legitimate” business, of course.

And it’s the pitch they sell to stupid people.


33 posted on 10/21/2016 12:39:37 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: spacejunkie2001

There is no way to prove a negative
it is locially impossible


34 posted on 10/21/2016 12:43:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Ask...

Does PP provide mammograms?

When the apologists say yes... invite them to call and ask when the next appointment for one might be available.


35 posted on 10/21/2016 12:47:18 PM PDT by rwilson99 (How exactly would John 3:16 not apply to Mary?)
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To: miss marmelstein
You’ll find no medical devices, no trained nurses or doctors.

That's not true. I know nurses personally (don't understand why) who work in PP clinics and they are supervised by an MD. You're not going to see them front and center when you walk in though. All the action goes on in the back.

If you need any medical procedure or test, xray. lab... besides the abortion...they can only refer to other Dr's/facilities. They are not a necessary entity IMO.

36 posted on 10/21/2016 12:47:41 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: rwilson99
Does PP provide mammograms?

No, and neither do gynecologists in private practice. They make referrals, like everyone else. I'm not defending PP, just setting the record straight.

37 posted on 10/21/2016 12:49:37 PM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell.)
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To: LaineyDee

When I was a youth, I was in several PP places. No clinics within. I don’t doubt you but that was my experience.


38 posted on 10/21/2016 12:53:45 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Of course they do other stuff.


39 posted on 10/21/2016 12:53:52 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

To them, the abortion is medical care for the mother. The death of the child is of no consequence to them. Your not even using the same verbage in your argument. They will claim they are winning till the cows come home.


40 posted on 10/21/2016 12:55:33 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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