Posted on 10/21/2016 11:36:16 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
Name one US based company that was manufacturing in the USA and was going out of business and offshoring saved them. I am sure there is one I just can’t name any.
Didn’t we already “end Welfare as we know it” back when Gingrich forced Clinton into signing it right before his reelection?
That really worked out! Even when we win, we lose.
I know what you mean. There’s something more than a paycheck that you earn when you work. If you do your best and excel, the personal growth is more than money can buy.
We are currently paying out $500 billion dollars a year in Welfare. (pretty close to it)
Imagine if we cut that by 85%. In a full employment economy, there’s probably no reason we couldn’t.
I think Trump’s business sense will help the nation a lot. His kids will be involved too, and with them and the rest of his team, I expect decent things out of the guy.
>They wound up with a team of five (5) Indians to try and do my job, and they still weren’t successful. So, they wound up dumping the lot,
It’s not ‘justice,’ certainly not as the SJWs see it. It’s as inevitable as gravity. One cannot replace innovation, creativity, and adaptability with any number of people who lack those traits any more than you can replace gasoline with potatoes to power a car.
That’s why it all comes right in the end. The thing is, we’d like to stop them as the globalists’ plan ends up costing the planet one or more gigadeaths before the consequences play out and civilization rebuilds. They don’t care, though, because they want their feudal lordships now and **** the consequences.
Same thing with a big-box store coming into a community. Prices drop, and the existing stores either compete, go out of business, or find a niche to occupy that the Big Box can't service.
To bring this back around, 'Tis one of the reasons why I like Trump. Hopefully, he'll rein in, or do away with NAFTA and some of the other more odious one-way trade agreements.
>>As I said long ago, they want Americans working for $5/hr. If at all possible. If one can even find a job in the U.S.A. at that time.
I didn’t fix a dollar amount, but I agree with you. They want us to be “competitive” in wages with other Third-World countries (which won’t be the Third World anymore—it will simply be the “Labor Pool” or behind closed doors “Serf Lands”).
A 20% import tariff will slowly convince manufactures in the benefits of made in the U.S.A.
I expect the draft to come back as more patriots decide naaaw. Who wants to kill and die for a global “economic region”.
I can, however, do the work of five mostly unqualified people who got the job because they were the lowest bid. Company actually started with one, then went to two, then three, and so on. I've no idea what the H1B's were charging, but I'd think that five of them - even the blue-light special ones - would be far, far more expensive than one local guy.
What comes around, goes around. If I've learned one thing in 20-odd years of corporate work, it's that no one is irreplaceable. Sooner or later - and I've already seen this happen at the big place that sent me to Mexico - the higher ups who wanted the outsourcing, are canned themselves.
Of course, they're usually replaced by people who think that outsourcing just wasn't successful because THEY hadn't done it yet ... but that's a whole 'nother topic.
Our housing will resemble Third World countries, too.
I came off an (impossible) job in Kansas not that long ago - a dying town where most of the housing is from the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s. A few newer ones, maybe from the 1980’s.
Anything that was $500/mo or so (small apartment or housing dwellings) looked not much different than a crime scene. Exposed wiring, un-secure, old plumbing right out in the open.....
Most all the structures are rotting on the inside and outside - as you’d expect after 50-70 years of weather.
I finally decided that it was easier (and safer) to just stay in the 1-star or maybe 2-star hotels.
The one good thing was that it is remote from the big cities - that’s where it’s gonna get wild in the times coming up. As we’ve already seen, on multiple occasions.
is this where Hillary Clinton gave the speech were Americans MUST get used to having LESS. IOW she was pushing poverty for you but not for her.
footnote: she has 250 million we know of. How much does she have hidden outside the USA?
[ the higher ups who wanted the outsourcing, are canned themselves. ]
Hey now, don’t make me smile at the karma.
I think the big plan is for the Chinese to come swooping in and buy up all the residential real estate and make Americans pay them rent.
It would take some study IMO. I’m not against them by any means.
With level societies, we’d have our smallest tariffs. With those that are slightly below our status, a bit larger tariffs would be necessary. Nations whose people have a living standard in the few percentage points compared to ours would require the largest tariffs.
What I would suggest for the most lopsided societies is that they find ways to supply small necessities to bolster our production. In that way they could contribute, but not totally destroy our manufacturing base. Perhaps further study could see the tariff on their goods reduced as long as they contributed and their economy didn’t hollow out our own.
It is costing every citizen in this nation, the outsourcing of jobs. Our nation’s tax base has been severely damaged. In this instance one of two things happens. Either our infrastructure and national debt become severely negatively impacted, or those of us working have to pay excessive taxes to make up for the shortfall.
Our small communities are hurt. People are unemployed. Our local economies are harmed. This next to free stuff from other nations is killing us.
Yes we will pay higher prices for some goods. At the same time our neighbors will be employed. Once the economy picks up we can move folks off Welfare.
There is a lot to be gained by managing our global trade better.
Might be. Of course when the thing collapses, I think every country is going to nationalize whatever resources they have left when the dust clears from the unavoidable economic collapse that is coming.
It could be some laughable karma on those who built factories in other countries. They’ll also find their visas expiring not long after they’re replaced by locals.
Of course, they never thought about THAT happening.
>>I expect the draft to come back as more patriots decide naaaw. Who wants to kill and die for a global “economic region”.
It will come down to economics. The military is a guaranteed paycheck and benefits. It will attract and keep people of every type and will change them into the kind of people you see wearing the uniforms of every totalitarian regime.
They’ll shoot you in the head and tell themselves, “It’s not personal. It’s just business.” The conversion of our military and police is already underway. The concept of “anything goes as long as I get home safely at night” will continue and the definition of “anything goes” will get broader and broader. People will do what it takes to survive.
The question is what do the rest of us do? Do we stand in the lines and hope that they kill someone else today as non-Americans tend to do? Or are we truly exceptional?
Labor is a small part of the overall cast of the lion share of manufactured goods. Even if made in the USA. On average for UNION labor the cost is around 8%. So the inflation would be minimal.
Fortunately our standing Army is minuscule when compered to the total population.
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