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Feds Walk Into A Building, Demand Everyone's Fingerprints To Open Phones (video)
Forbes ^ | October 16, 2016 | By Thomas Fox-Brewster

Posted on 10/19/2016 12:29:32 AM PDT by Swordmaker

In what’s believed to be an unprecedented attempt to bypass the security of Apple iPhones, or any smartphone that uses fingerprints to unlock, California’s top cops asked to enter a residence and force anyone inside to use their biometric information to open their mobile devices.

FORBES found a court filing, dated May 9 2016, in which the Department of Justice sought to search a Lancaster, California, property. But there was a more remarkable aspect of the search, as pointed out in the memorandum: “authorization to depress the fingerprints and thumbprints of every person who is located at the SUBJECT PREMISES during the execution of the search and who is reasonably believed by law enforcement to be the user of a fingerprint sensor-enabled device that is located at the SUBJECT PREMISES and falls within the scope of the warrant.” The warrant was not available to the public, nor were other documents related to the case.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; applepinglist; privacy; searchwarrant; security

1 posted on 10/19/2016 12:29:32 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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DOJ gets warrant that allows cops to enter a building and force everyone in the building to hand over their smartphones AND UNLOCK THEM using their fingerprint if locked, without specifying who may be in the building or what evidence is being sought on the phones! — PING!


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2 posted on 10/19/2016 12:35:43 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Passwords are protected speech - keys in any form, even if they are part of your body, are simply keys as far as the courts are concerned.

Or to put it another way... Biometric locks protect you from people, passwords protect you from governments.


3 posted on 10/19/2016 12:39:24 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

Yep ... you can use BOTH biometrics AND password/PIN for max protection.


4 posted on 10/19/2016 12:55:20 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Swordmaker

I can be bribed to allow someone to look through my phone.


5 posted on 10/19/2016 12:57:06 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Swordmaker

just like passwords, Apple should have the ability to specify a ‘duress’ finger and a ‘normal’ finger.

if the user uses their ‘duress’ finger, the phone would back everything to the user’s account and wipe the local data... leaving the phone locked but empty.

of course, the user should also be able to setup their account such that all contents would be encrypted (encrypted tar gzip), if the ‘duress’ finger were used.

the contents would be safe but only retrievable by the owner


6 posted on 10/19/2016 1:39:37 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Swordmaker

Odungo’s storm troopers


7 posted on 10/19/2016 1:49:10 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle
Odungo’s storm troopers Safe in Hillary's Supreme Court.
8 posted on 10/19/2016 2:07:48 AM PDT by Does so (Vote for Hillary...Stay Home...==8-O)
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To: sten

Duress finger is a good idea.

In a previous FR post on this subject, I read that you can be legally forced to provide a fingerprint but not be forced to provide a password.


9 posted on 10/19/2016 2:11:23 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Swordmaker

Not without my lawyer present.


10 posted on 10/19/2016 2:13:07 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m sorry that I cannot comply with your request, as I have lost my phone in a boating accident.


11 posted on 10/19/2016 2:17:13 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Swordmaker

Under hillary, such things will become a commonplace.


12 posted on 10/19/2016 2:27:21 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jonty30

But was it intentional.


13 posted on 10/19/2016 3:47:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Swordmaker

Open the phone, then tell Siri, “Wipe it, like with a cloth”.


14 posted on 10/19/2016 4:20:28 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Voting Trump. It is not just a vote, it is a chance to burn down the rotten Uniparty.)
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To: sten

Power off your phone. You have to enter the passcode to enable Touch ID after a power on.


15 posted on 10/19/2016 4:21:21 AM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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>>Power off your phone. You have to enter the passcode to enable Touch ID after a power on.

Another reason for 2am no-knock entries: to prevent people from turning their phones off.


16 posted on 10/19/2016 4:42:10 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

Just disable Touch ID for unlocking the phone. Inconvenient yes, better for privacy also yes.


17 posted on 10/19/2016 5:23:07 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: sten
of course, the user should also be able to setup their account such that all contents would be encrypted (encrypted tar gzip), if the ‘duress’ finger were used.

iPhones are already encrypted to a 256 bit AES standard. All that would be necessary for your idea to work is that the "duress finger" would require the use of the user's passcode. The courts have ruled those are off limits. The user can also force that by merely restarting the phone also. Takes ten seconds. If the police are demanding to come in with a search warrant of this type, hold down the power and home buttons for ten seconds. Turn the phone back on. The iPhone will require the user's passcode before the fingerprint TouchID will work again. Problem solved.

18 posted on 10/19/2016 10:15:15 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Does so

Yet this unprecedented over-reach began with GW Bush’s watch and the post 9-11 ramp-up in federal powers... including eavesdropping and wiretapping.


19 posted on 10/19/2016 12:33:21 PM PDT by TheBattman (A member over 15 years, yet my posts are "submitted for review" and no freepmail...)
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