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WikiLeaks: Podesta and Left-Wing Activist Plot ‘Catholic Spring’
Lifezette.com ^ | Oct 12, 2016 | Edmund Kozak

Posted on 10/12/2016 8:05:11 AM PDT by FR_addict

Longtime Clinton confidante discussed infiltrating the Catholic Church with progressive ideology to foment revolution

A newly leaked email shows Hillary Clinton’s current campaign chairman John Podesta and a Left-wing activist casually discussing fomenting “revolution” in the Catholic Church.

“There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church,” Sandy Newman, president and founder of the progressive nonprofit Voices for Progress, writes to Podesta in an email titled “opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing.”

“There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church.”

The emails were leaked in the third round of releases of Podesta’s emails by WikiLeaks.

Newman, who is Jewish, admits he does not know much about the Catholic Church and isn’t volunteering personally to subvert Catholic teachings. “Even if the idea isn’t crazy, I don’t qualify to be involved and I have not thought at all about how one would ‘plant the seeds of the revolution,’ or who would plant them.”

In response, Podesta assures Newman to rest easy for he and his progressive pals have already created organizations explicitly designed to infiltrate the Catholic Church with progressive ideology, though he cautions that the time may not be right for full revolution — just yet...


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Evidently, they discussed changing the Catholic Church to their way of thinking more than once in email threads.
1 posted on 10/12/2016 8:05:11 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

We’ll probably see mails from Podesta to Bergoglio before this is all said and done.


2 posted on 10/12/2016 8:07:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FR_addict

Apparently, these ill-informed and criminal-minded devils never heard of liberation theology. I wonder why Newman doesn’t start with Orthodox Judaism since they generally voted Republican.


3 posted on 10/12/2016 8:07:49 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: FR_addict

If you ask me that infiltration had already been going on long before Podesta may have mentioned it. People like Tim Kaine were introduced to Liberation theology at a young age and carried that forth into the Catholic religion.


4 posted on 10/12/2016 8:09:35 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: FR_addict

Remember - for Marxists, EVERYTHING can be deconstructed and reformed, everything is part of class-struggle, and therefore EVERYTHING is political, and nothing is off-limits.


5 posted on 10/12/2016 8:10:46 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: FR_addict

Remember - for Marxists, EVERYTHING can be deconstructed and reformed, everything is part of class-struggle, and therefore EVERYTHING is political, and nothing is off-limits.


6 posted on 10/12/2016 8:11:07 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: FR_addict
It's all about the courts. Pray we get both houses and the Presidency.

We need to address the right to your Christian beliefs without penalty for non-participation in rules of morality.

There was an old saying...you can't legislate morality. Well, apparently you can legislate immorality.

7 posted on 10/12/2016 8:11:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: FR_addict

I don’t tweet or FB, but I’m hoping that these emails showing Hillary’s hatred of Catholics and Evangelicals is hitting social media hard.


8 posted on 10/12/2016 8:12:02 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: FR_addict; Buckeye McFrog; P-Marlowe

This sounds so much like the Screwtape letters. Upper hierarchy demon speaking to lower level demon.

It is amazing stuff that they speak of already infiltrating a denomination. We have always felt it, but now we know it.

And they’re doing it to our denominations/churches, too.


9 posted on 10/12/2016 8:13:34 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: FR_addict

Not seeing much movement or commentary from the Bishops, are you? This should be noted in every diocesan paper. And the Republicans still have a pro-life plank in their platform.


10 posted on 10/12/2016 8:14:44 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: PGR88

One might go back and ask the Romans how they brought change in the Judah region after trying to confront and persuade them to accept Roman authority.


11 posted on 10/12/2016 8:14:45 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: FR_addict
It's past time that citizens--Catholic, Protestant, and others who understand their Constitution, with its foundations in Creator-endowed rights and liberty--speak out to defend against this outright assault from Clinton's campaign and her entire "progressive" movement whose ideology makes population control the centerprise of their coercive agenda.

Understanding the ideology, and all that it incorporates, sheds light on the grave threats to freedom for individuals.

Until now, there has been a strange silence on the subject of her absolute insistence on promoting "destroying" of human life in the womb. Does no one ask the question, "Why is abortion, even late-term, the most important item on the agenda of a woman who claims to speak for the children?"

On the underlying question moral question discussed here, nothing addresses it better than the simple logic of this quotation from Mother Teresa, who, at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, DC on February 3, 1994, as cited above, stated: "And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?"

Mother Teresa's declaration may be the most powerful statement in 2016 from which to begin discussions of where a candidate stands on all the questions of life and liberty.

In America, our constitutional protections rest on the Founders' premise that each and all individuals are "endowed by their Creator" with the unalienable right to both life and the liberty to enjoy it, or, in their words, "the pursuit of happiness."

The sole reason these rights were deemed unalienable is that both are derived from the Creator--not from the mother or father, and not from government or judicial decision. What is "granted" by human decision also can, by implication, be withheld.

"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them (life and liberty)," said Thomas Jefferson.

"The world is different now. . . and yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forefathers fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address

That understanding underlies every other consideration embodied in our Declaration of Independence and every protection of our Constitution. It is the very basis of our rights to life and liberty, of laws to protect them, and it distinguishes ours from other forms of government.

When we fail to acknowledge that foundation of our liberty, then we risk liberty itself for future generations, for where does the right to choose who lives and who does not really end?

That is why the question is of vital importance in each election. Already, we have deprived millions of their Creator-endowed rights to life and liberty, and our nation must be weaker for their loss. We need leaders who understand the implications and potential consequences of departing from our founding principles.

In recent decades, technological advances have enabled us to observe the characteristics and actions of God's tiniest creations in the womb. Unlike previous generations who could not see, we have no excuse for imagining that these are mere blobs of tissue labeled "fetuses." In their early weeks, we now can see that they are living babies who will continue on to possess life and liberty if we do not "destroy" both. Indeed, they are simply smaller versions of ourselves.

Questions on the economy, taxes, threats from terrorists, health care--all are considerations at this election time. One, however, may be basic to all others. Who will best protect the underlying premise of our Constitution--and the lives and liberties of millions yet unborn?

Promises are illusive and cheap. One fact is indisputable, however: Hillary Clinton is committed to the Far Left's agenda on this matter, and that agenda is not compatible with our Constitution's premise.

Some time ago, my attention was drawn to a late-1800's essay which helps to explain the absolute, unbending positions "progressives" hold on what that writer called "population control" and its necessity to "socialism"--the essential position being that without such mechanisms, socialism cannot work in a society.

There is an oft-overlooked imperative for the Democrat Party's hard stand on abortion, as declared in the first paragraph of a late-1800's analysis of "The Impracticability of Socialism." In that paragraph, the writer's point seems to be that under Socialism, ordinary human population growth cannot be economically supported.

The following is quoted from the Liberty Fund Library "A Plea for Liberty: An Argument Against Socialism and Socialistic Legislation," edited by Thomas Mackay (1849 - 1912), Chapter 1, final paragraphs from Edward Stanley Robertson's essay, "The Impracticability of Socialism":

Note the writer's emphasis that the "scheme of Socialism" requires what he calls "the power of restraining the increase in population"--long the essential and primary focus of the Democrat Party in the U. S.:

"I have suggested that the scheme of Socialism is wholly incomplete unless it includes a power of restraining the increase of population, which power is so unwelcome to Englishmen that the very mention of it seems to require an apology. I have showed that in France, where restraints on multiplication have been adopted into the popular code of morals, there is discontent on the one hand at the slow rate of increase, while on the other, there is still a 'proletariat,' and Socialism is still a power in politics.
I.44
"I have put the question, how Socialism would treat the residuum of the working class and of all classes—the class, not specially vicious, nor even necessarily idle, but below the average in power of will and in steadiness of purpose. I have intimated that such persons, if they belong to the upper or middle classes, are kept straight by the fear of falling out of class, and in the working class by positive fear of want. But since Socialism purposes to eliminate the fear of want, and since under Socialism the hierarchy of classes will either not exist at all or be wholly transformed, there remains for such persons no motive at all except physical coercion. Are we to imprison or flog all the 'ne'er-do-wells'?
I.45
"I began this paper by pointing out that there are inequalities and anomalies in the material world, some of which, like the obliquity of the ecliptic and the consequent inequality of the day's length, cannot be redressed at all. Others, like the caprices of sunshine and rainfall in different climates, can be mitigated, but must on the whole be endured. I am very far from asserting that the inequalities and anomalies of human society are strictly parallel with those of material nature. I fully admit that we are under an obligation to control nature so far as we can. But I think I have shown that the Socialist scheme cannot be relied upon to control nature, because it refuses to obey her. Socialism attempts to vanquish nature by a front attack. Individualism, on the contrary, is the recognition, in social politics, that nature has a beneficent as well as a malignant side. . . .
I.46
"Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove."
EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON
With Hillary, isn't this the choice we must make--a path to tyranny or a possible path back to freedom in America?

12 posted on 10/12/2016 8:15:24 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Robert DeLong
There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church,” Sandy Newman, president and founder of the progressive nonprofit Voices for Progress, writes to Podesta in an email titled “opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing.”

The anti-christian left can't touch the orthodox church in Russia - That is why they want to take down Russia. So many American catholics are social justice warriors before they are for christ - it will be easy to take down the catholic church and every other denomination will fall like dominos. Save the mormons and the rlds - they are not part of the nicene creed body of christ.

13 posted on 10/12/2016 8:15:51 AM PDT by x_plus_one (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it" -- H L Mencken)
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To: Robert DeLong
There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church,” Sandy Newman, president and founder of the progressive nonprofit Voices for Progress, writes to Podesta in an email titled “opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing.”

The anti-christian left can't touch the orthodox church in Russia - That is why they want to take down Russia. So many American catholics are social justice warriors before they are for christ - it will be easy to take down the catholic church and every other denomination will fall like dominos. Save the mormons and the rlds - they are not part of the nicene creed body of christ.

14 posted on 10/12/2016 8:15:52 AM PDT by x_plus_one (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it" -- H L Mencken)
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To: miss marmelstein

” I wonder why Newman doesn’t start with Orthodox Judaism since they generally voted Republican.”

Good question.


15 posted on 10/12/2016 8:16:10 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Here is the contact information for the guy who emailed Podesta about the “Catholic Spring”.
I called the number and he actually answered.
Consider calling him and voicing your discontent.
I told him to keep out of the business of the Catholic Church.

Sandy Newman, President > Voices for Progress > 202.669.8754 > voicesforprogress.org


16 posted on 10/12/2016 8:16:37 AM PDT by SteveO87
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To: Robert DeLong

Tim Kaine speaks WAY too confidently about his belief that the Church is about to “evolve” in its thinking on these issues.

You don’t think he’s been tipped off with some inside info?


17 posted on 10/12/2016 8:19:18 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SteveO87

I may do that later today.

At this moment I’m on a tear to get the Commission on Presidential Debates to insist that Wallace be a journalist instead of a Clinton toady at the next debate. Have sent emails (no response).

media@debates.org
(202) 872-1020

The website states they’re “nonpartisan”. They aren’t.


18 posted on 10/12/2016 8:23:20 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: FR_addict

Cross-links to growing WikiLeaks revelations: http://citizensontheweb.ca/


19 posted on 10/12/2016 8:26:46 AM PDT by combat_boots (MSM: We lie to you sheep at the slaughterhouse to keep you calm during slaughter)
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To: Sacajaweau; FR_addict
"It's all about the courts. Pray we get both houses and the Presidency."

You got that right! This election is far more than just the Executive and Congressional branches.

If Hillary isn't defeated, the liberal / progressive / socialists will get to take over SCOTUS with unstoppable 6-3 or 7-2 progressive rulings. Forget about close votes or a "divided court. It will be lopsided landslides.

Furthermore, there will be hundreds more liberal judges appointed throughout the lower courts. And that's on top of the hundreds that Barry has already installed.

If people think the Obama care ruling was bad...they ain't seen nothing yet!

Trump must win in November or our Constitutional rights will continue to be eroded at an ever increasing pace.

20 posted on 10/12/2016 8:30:03 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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