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Musical 'Aida' cancelled at Bristol University amid race row over 'cultural appropriation'
UK Telegraph ^ | October 4, 2016 | Sam Dean and Tom Morgan

Posted on 10/05/2016 6:10:47 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: Sans-Culotte

I think the question with regards to a historical presentation, when you take something that is so colossally dramatic as the life of Hamilton, the challenge is how do you present something so massive, so real, so incredible...so completely over the top...and make it speak appropriately to us, today?

I think we run a real risk of seeing the Founding Fathers as static, almost non-human. As strange as it seems....in order for this critically important history to come alive, we need to make radical artistic choices, and that is what they (the creators of Hamilton) have done. It’s crazy. But there is more knowledge now of the Founding Fathers among young people who love the music that there has been in my lifetime. This is a huge conservative victory.

And again, the choices for the performers were originally made only based upon their musical abilities (who sang the music the best). Originally, the work was supposed to be an album. Only later did it become a show....now, fast forward, they did the same process in Chicago, and the cast there is all white (except the bad guy!). So really, for the Hamilton team, it’s all about the music. They can say that legitimately.

I am not a hip hop person, either, and certainly understand that! But the show I would say has hip hop elements, but is not a hip hop show as such. It is chock full of memorable Broadway songs. On one hand, it is “just like Broadway”. On the other hand, it is very new, because of the hip hop elements.

In any event. This is a big topic, and I have beat it to death on other threads. But you “might” consider checking out the music. You “might” be surprised! :)


61 posted on 10/05/2016 11:26:49 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ClearCase_guy
The folks who can do little more than beat jungle drums are jealous of all that Western Civilization has achieved. We have Verdi, the Louvre, the Sistine Chapel. They have mud huts.

And rap.
Don't forget filthy rap.

62 posted on 10/05/2016 11:32:27 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I would probably cut the musical Hamilton some slack as it is a hip-hop show anyway, and I don't consider hip-hop to be music so I don't much care about it.

Now you went and done it!

63 posted on 10/05/2016 11:47:48 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: C19fan

This PC crap is way out of hand.


64 posted on 10/05/2016 11:52:27 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: ConservativeDude
I think we run a real risk of seeing the Founding Fathers as static, almost non-human. As strange as it seems....in order for this critically important history to come alive, we need to make radical artistic choices, and that is what they (the creators of Hamilton) have done. It’s crazy. But there is more knowledge now of the Founding Fathers among young people who love the music that there has been in my lifetime. This is a huge conservative victory.

I am glad to see that people are getting some info on the Founders based on the play. I would probably be more interested in the piece if it had been more along the lines of 1776, which was also a musical and was a smash hit on Broadway and presented the Founders fairly realistically and somewhat comedically (unfortunately, the film was not a box-office success, but it is very good).

65 posted on 10/05/2016 12:07:57 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Oh, I assure you I realise that. :P

The EXACT translation of the German phrase actually comes out to ‘I unlock the safety from my Browning’.

The bad translation of ‘That’s when I reach for my revolver’ was made by other people, decades ago. (Perhaps because it sounded better in song lyrics.) :P


66 posted on 10/05/2016 12:15:46 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: C19fan

That’s it

No more polish sausage or pierogi’ for ANYONE unless they are Polish- or they pay me reparations.

My people have suffered enough.


67 posted on 10/05/2016 12:22:56 PM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

THE MOOPS!


68 posted on 10/05/2016 12:24:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: Mr. K

No beer unless you’re German?


69 posted on 10/05/2016 12:25:27 PM PDT by Lee Enfield (I identify as rich, cut me a check.)
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To: Lee Enfield

Nein! Nein!


70 posted on 10/05/2016 12:26:18 PM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: Kriggerel
Thanks for the info.
71 posted on 10/05/2016 12:32:59 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: Mr. K
THE MOOPS!

THAT'S RIGHT!

Same thing, only different.

72 posted on 10/05/2016 1:31:05 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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To: Mr. K

“THE MOOPS”

All your dreams will now belong to Bubble Boy.


73 posted on 10/05/2016 2:34:40 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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