It's freedom vs socialism.
Law and order vs anarchy and chaos.
National security, national sovereignty, national survival.
Constitution and the rule of law.
Consent of the governed.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
God, family, country.
Hillary represents the enemy within regarding all the important issues.
I agree with what you say that the debate doesn’t matter and the choice couldn’t be clearer. Trump did well, and Hillary did way better than I expected, but a practiced liar can do that.
My livefeed kept cutting out, so I don’t know for sure, but it was extremely disappointing that when Hillary was going after Trump for everything under the sun, he was too restrained. Only vague mention of her presiding over the Arab Spring, destabilizing sovereign countries, and no mention of American deaths in Benghazi as far as I heard (correct me if I missed that).
Talking about the immunity given to her staff was good, but nothing about how her own behavior that led to hacking by anyone who knows how to do it into her unsecured server doing State Dept. business...not to mention the pay-for-play evidence throughout her tenure as SOS.
Nothing about the Clinton Foundation when she went after him over his probable lack of charitable giving shown in his tax returns. She donates a lot, and it all goes to the uncharitable Clinton Foundation and murderous Planned Parenthood. Trump said he wanted to be nice and not go after her and her family (meaning the Foundation?) - I think he should have done it.
Good point at the end that while she has spent $100+ million to defame him with lies, he is still winning or even in most the states spending little money. He shows up and she stays home to rest.
On the issues, Trump won. On getting out all the zingers, HRC won. Anyone who would vote for her because of that is clueless.
He has two more debates to go, he has his footing under him, he knows what lies she told and so do all of us...
All she was there to do in the first fifteen minutes was to sell her worthless book...
I am mighty proud of Trump, a person who is NOT a ‘polished politician’ for 40 years and have done nothing but lie, make a mess of the Middle East and ruin our Nation's reputation...so I say Trump won this debate...
TRUMP WON TONIGHT!!! AMERICA WINS ANOTHER ROUND!!!
..this was her best shot Jim, and it was pathetic—even with Holt’s help...
Well said.
Most who watch debates look at them as entertainment. I don’t.
Hillary’s big smiles showed me that she cares nothing for this fine country and all she wants is global power to crush us under her thumb.
Donald Trump was all business and totally devoted to our country.
If the MSM believe that Clinton won, they will lose to the people they helped destroy this great nation and will be hunted down like the dogs they are.
We will not allow these scum to survive after this election...
Well said Jim. I didn`t watch the debate, as I had to work, but based on most of the comments, it sounds like it was about a draw. Hillary was not dealt the knockout blow we all had hoped to see. That causes alot of Freepers to consider it a loss for Trump. But in truth, we need to look at it in terms of how it was viewed by the general public.
Neither us here nor the die hard Hillary supporters were changed by what happened tonight. The most important question is how the LIV`s viewed it. What might by viewed by us as a disappointment by us might very well be perceived by the LIV`s as slightly positive in Trump`s favor.
As someone once said, Donald Trump could post a youtube video showing him throwing a cat into a wood chipper, and I would still vote for him. Nothing changed with this debate. Trump did fine. He was talking to average Americans, Hillary was wonky, smug and canned. Her joke lines were written for her and awkwardly delivered. Holt was clearly gunning for Trump. But watch the MSM headlines scream Clinton victory.
I think tonight he won a very large chunk of Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Sealing the deal there is “huge.”
I agree. In any event, I think Hillary launched everything she has (in a very canned manner) and Trump still has a lot of fresh ammo for rounds 2 and 3.
You have, honed over the years, the ability to cut to the heart of the matter. It is why I am proud to call us friends. Thanks for this post.
Did Lester even ask about the topics that were supposed to be the topics for questions? Trumps tax returns wasn’t one of the main topics I remember seeing in those articles about 3 topics 2 questions on each topic that the debate organizers listed as the plan for the night....... I didn’t get to watch much debate tuned in late and my connection kept freezing up so I will watch a video of it.
‘We can’t spare this man. He fights.’
He promised he would fight for us and tonight he delivered.
‘Anyone. Anywhere. Any time.’
I was proud of him.
If you’re happy when leftist pricks call you “racist” whenever they’re trying to win an argument, Hillary won.
Also, Holt (and others after the debate) tried to make a big deal out of Trump changing the charge that Hillary "did not look presidential" to the charge that she "did not have the stamina to be president". Actually, in a very real way, they are both pertaining to the same thing. The reason we can ascertain that she doesn't have the stamina to be president is precisely by her look, which includes public fainting, stumbling around, wobbling here and there, collapsing, odd head spinning and bobbling, weird spasms that may be mini seizures, crazy eyes bizarrely rolling around and pointing in two different directions, etc. She doesn't look like she has the stamina (or mental stability) to be president.
My opinion is that Trump shellacked Hillary tonight, and he is going to shellac her on November 8.
Who won the debate?
I'll leave it to you to figure out how we all voted in the Zak household!
Yes. But next time Trump has to spend less time on defense and ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK.
This is a woman with NO accomplishments and a long trail of lying, deceiving, grifting, treating other people with contempt and hate. He needs to attack HER and her foundation.
She gave him a GIFT when she mentioned her book. AMAZON had to pull the vast number of NEGATIVE comments on it, presumably at Hillary’s request and GOT CAUGHT. It was on FOX. Just like she was caught taking bribes from Saudi Sheiks through her foundation. Just like she got caught hammering crll phones. Trump needs to do some homework for the next debate and so do his mentors.
If he can SLAM her out in the 2nd and third debate on her horrific record- he wins BIG TIME.
Trump won - The pre-debate media chatter was all about whether Holt should fact-check Trump, but it turned out the most memorable such event occurred when Trump fact-checked Holt over how he characterized his Iraq war comments.
She IS the enemy. The laughing, mocking, taunting enemy.
There are those who see Satan in her, and those who don't.
Nothing else.
This campaign is largely a battle for the LIV`s at this point. Let`s not under estimate Trump`s ability to see the big picture while his opponents are stuck in a narrower strategic vision.
Trump likely views this as a best of three series and doesn`t just look at each debate in isolation. If the goal of the first debate was to establish trust and rappore with the LIV`s, who up till now have been judging him from the sound bytes spoon fed to them by the media, then he was probably sucessful.
He also stood up to Holt when Holt`s bias was most blatant. This illustrates to the LIV`s that when he brings up bias in future debates, a strong case will have already been made for its existence, in the first one.
Also, the outcome of this debate may lulll the Hillary team into a sense of overconfidence which will likely be their undoing. They just can`t help themselves.
