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The Donald Back Up By 4.1% in USC/LA Times Poll
USC-Dornsfire/LA Times Daybeak Tracking Poll ^ | 9/25/2016 | USC-Dornsfire/LA Times

Posted on 09/25/2016 12:16:39 AM PDT by NYRepublican72

Trump with a huuugeee net-two point day to push the lead back up to 4.

Trump 46.4 (+1.1%) Clinton 42.3 (-1.0%)

Almost out of the margin of error.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; bouncebackdon; clinton2016polls; trump; trumpbump; trumplandslidecoming
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1 posted on 09/25/2016 12:16:41 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: NYRepublican72
I wonder what caused such a fast drop for Trump in the first place. Roughly tied on 9/11, Trump jumped to a 6.7% lead a week later. Many believe this was the impact of Hillary's health issues and subsequently being tossed into a van like a side of beef.

Four days later, Trump's lead is down to 1.4%. I cannot figure out how Hillary was able to gain that much in this poll over that short span. Now, two days after that drop, the lead is back to 4.1% for Trump. Wanting so much to believe this is where the race is, it's hard to latch onto this poll with such a wide variation over a short period of time. Especially for Hillary, who seemingly has done little campaigning in the past month.

2 posted on 09/25/2016 12:37:50 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: CatOwner

The way this poll works is that it’s based on intensity. Perhaps the Gennifer Flowers tweet energized the Donald’s supporters today and accounted for the shift.


3 posted on 09/25/2016 12:49:30 AM PDT by NYRepublican72 (Radical Islamic terrorist Omar Mateen is "Ready for Hillary!" Are you too?)
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To: NYRepublican72

I think the Ted Cruz endorsement of Trump on Friday was huge.

I think you will see Johnson’s begin to crater with Trump picking up the bulk of his support.


4 posted on 09/25/2016 1:29:12 AM PDT by techno
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“Perhaps the Gennifer Flowers tweet energized the Donald’s supporters”

LOL.

The Cruz endorsement also helped.


5 posted on 09/25/2016 1:37:54 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: NYRepublican72

NY!!!

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RUDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEWT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sessions!!!!

The men that will put our country back together again!!! :) :) :)


6 posted on 09/25/2016 1:42:06 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: CatOwner

she looks 600 years old and that on the good side.


7 posted on 09/25/2016 1:43:19 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: techno

Oh no!

The two people with Johnson signs, in my area, will be devastated!


8 posted on 09/25/2016 1:57:01 AM PDT by Salamander (More deplorable than deplorable...)
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To: NYRepublican72

I believe this group uses a rolling average. They have 3000 people in the poll but only poll about 200 of them each day. So it takes roughly 2 weeks before they go back and poll the same people again. Because each day is only a small sample size, it may be susceptible to larger daily swings (esp if they weigh the more recent responses more heavily, or, if there is something in the news that would push people to one or the other candidate). I suspect it should be slower to move based on news events because it would take several days of 200 responses before a large shift in preference could influence the numbers shown in the entire group of 3000. Overall it should be great for spotting trends. I am unsure how well it will do in predicting outcomes but it sure is an interesting, new way to poll.


9 posted on 09/25/2016 2:42:26 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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Ignore all media

Get Out The Vote


10 posted on 09/25/2016 2:48:45 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: CatOwner

The methodology guarantees wide swings. While they use a large pool to draw from on any given day the only ask 400 people


11 posted on 09/25/2016 2:49:48 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: CatOwner

It is possible they weigh the more recent responses more heavily than the older responses. This outfit polls the same 3000 people, 200 each day. If they weigh recent responses more heavily then it is possible to see bigger swings day to day. Otherwise the only explanation I can think of is that once in a while they will get an “outlier” group of 200 who are very heavily in favor of one or the other so great that it pushes the average. If they expect that of 200 people it should break roughly 100 to 100, but instead that small sample came out 150 to 50 for Hillary, this extra 50 people would represent a 1.6% swing overall. But, that would not be representative, it is too small a sample size and it is way outside all the other samples. So the tracking number could move in the short term from something like this, but if it is an outlier it will soon show a reversion to the mean - which is what it appears to have done. The mean shows an advantage to Trump among the entire group and that advantage has held for over 2 weeks, long enough that they have basically polled everyone in the group at least once. This increases confidence in the results, as well as the trend.


12 posted on 09/25/2016 2:59:06 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
They have 3000 people in the poll but only poll about 200 of them each day. So it takes roughly 2 weeks before they go back and poll the same people again.

I believe it is about 400 per day and they poll over a 7 period not a 14 day period.

It is possible that they weigh the most recent day's poll heavier but I doubt it.

Interestingly, if you analyze the day to day changes you find that some days are much for favorable to Trump than Clinton and some are more favorable to Hillary.

Trump's best days: Thur-Fri-Sat-Sun. Hillary wins Mon-Tue-Wed. But Trumps good days are better than Hillary's.

13 posted on 09/25/2016 3:40:24 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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To: CatOwner

“Many believe this was the impact of Hillary’s health issues and subsequently being tossed into a van like a side of beef”

I tend to think of it more like a mangled chunk of roadkill being tossed into a dump truck.


14 posted on 09/25/2016 4:27:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: InterceptPoint

If the original groups assigned by day are unbalanced (not representative of population), then this sort of pattern will emerge. Think of it as a tire that threw a wheel weight - it spins eccentrically.

Throw in a few weakly committed voters and the warp could be even greater (unless those shifty voters run counter).

This poll is more entrail examining, hocus pocus to impress those with no knowledge of statistical processes. Basically stupid people looking for a sign in tea leaves. Of course “journalists” are the prime example of this. “Report” om something new and exciting - whether it has any validity or not.


15 posted on 09/25/2016 5:39:36 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: techno

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

The prevailing FReeper view is that Sen. Cruz endorsement didn’t matter. Lord knows I’m not a fan of the Senator, but I appreciate the endorsement and am thankful for it.


16 posted on 09/25/2016 5:50:07 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Make phone calls. Knock on doors. Write letters. Or wake to a nightmare in November)
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To: CatOwner
Despite the recent swings, the trend since 9/11 looks very good for Trump with this poll.


17 posted on 09/25/2016 5:52:21 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To: CatOwner

The Donald is on the way back up because of the recent terrorist attacks, the riots and the un-American anti-pledgers. People see the way the country is heading and it isn’t pretty. Of course, why any American would vote for Clinton makes one just shake their head.


18 posted on 09/25/2016 6:06:26 AM PDT by Proudcongal (Make America great again! Make America safe again!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

He should have just made the endorsement and stayed quiet. Instead, now he’s whining about how bad Trump is. He can’t have it both ways. I think the endorsement may help Trump, but it’s not going to help Ted in the long run unless he just shuts up. He’s looking like a whiner.


19 posted on 09/25/2016 6:20:56 AM PDT by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: CatOwner
Most of the up and down is in the African American sample. I don't think there is any rhyme or reason for the day-to-day jumps. The jump up about 10 days ago, the drop a few days ago, and the jump up today are all in that African American sample.
20 posted on 09/25/2016 6:24:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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