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Debating Hillary
American Thinker ^ | September 21, 2016 | G. Murphy Donovan

Posted on 09/21/2016 12:45:51 PM PDT by Kaslin

“Time spent arguing is, oddly enough, almost never wasted.” - Christopher Hitchens

The impending presidential debates are likely to be the best attended in the history of American politics. The viewing and listening audience will set a standard for political discussions past and future. At this point, the draw is Donald Trump. Love him or hate him, Trump is a candidate who packs a house and elevates the ratings.

Whether or not the Trump “draw” translates into votes remains to be seen. Ironically, Trump’s negatives may be the new positive. Those so-called “undecideds,” might be a closet demographic, folks who do not support Trump publicly, but on Election Day will push the button for change anyway.

At this point in the campaign, both candidates represent real choice. Hillary is the establishment, the ancien regime, more of the same if you will. Trump is the parvenu, the rhetorical bomb thrower. The Donald represents change, anxiety, and uncertainty too.

Here Trump has a decided advantage. Call it the enthusiasm gap. Emotion and energy are the important components of any political campaign. Specific issues are, for the most part, window dressing. Most candidates see politics as the art of saying and playing, not doing.

Issues are merely emotional outreach, the hot buttons of cynical voter manipulation. If you can talk-the-talk well enough, you might never have to walk-the-walk.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; debates; election; hillaryrottenclinton; trump
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To: Kaslin

41 posted on 09/21/2016 2:23:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (She is evil, corrupt, and brain damaged.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I am leaning ever more like 50/50. She can’t skip them all but one or two would not surprise me.


42 posted on 09/21/2016 2:27:58 PM PDT by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: sodpoodle

I use the mute button all the time on the “progressives” and I don’t care who it is. I am just not interested listeningg to their lies.


43 posted on 09/21/2016 2:28:07 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Good article.

Few candidates feel compelled to deliver on campaign promises anyway, especially reform. American campaigning and governance have now morphed into perpetual spin, a cynical PR ritual. Nonetheless, most aspirants are still expected to make politically correct noises to get nominated...

Sadly that is politics in the past 30 years as I've seen it. My family is not much for TV watching and media. Prior to this election cycle I've known very little about Donald Trump and nothing about the reality TV and other media ventures. If I'd been asked 18 months ago to discuss Donald Trump all I could have related was that I saw in tabloids at my Grama's that he was a big NY businessman who divorced Ivana (?) for someone named Marla (?) who seemed like a bimbo. Never knew if they married etc...not interested.

When he announced his intention to run it sounded like a joke. But, I have listened to this man. He says a lot I agree with and respect. He shoves his foot in his mouth sometimes but I can relate to that. Based on his speech and arguments, I like this man better than Reagan. I don't know if he's the kind of person to follow thru or not but over the past months I've come to have some trust in him. Maybe I'll be disappointed but even so, I am a CONSERVATIVE woman and I will never vote for Hillary.

44 posted on 09/21/2016 2:30:04 PM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: Son House
That arrogant pos might not be confident of his legacy. I am though

His legacy will be that he is the worst president in the American history!!!

45 posted on 09/21/2016 2:33:26 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Ransomed
What I don’t get is how someone can be swayed by debates at this point.

The only important thing from this "debate" will be whether Trump comes out looking "presidential". If the general perception is that he is, Trump will win the election handily.

You must remember that many voters only know Trump from what the Dems and Dem media has described. An unfit racist who will start WW3. The same thing Reagan had to overcome in 1980.

46 posted on 09/21/2016 2:36:22 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: AmusedBystander
I disagree. Think he'll have to show a depth of knowledge- to some extent. People seeing him for the first time have been told by the media that he has no understanding.

Oh yeah: "Kelo ruling" will be brought up".

47 posted on 09/21/2016 2:41:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Biggirl
Not surprised. The Secret Service must be tired of the abuse coming from her.

I've been knocking Hitlery on several threads today, must just be a gripey day for me, but I'm going to add another thing about her that really irritates me about her. It's trivial. I'm a female. From Texas. Y'all all know how she puts on that fake southern accent when it suits her? Well a real southern lady does not stoop to rudeness to gentlemen of any kind who perform services for her. Nor is she rude to assistants. I know, there are ladies in Secret Service too. I live in the 21st century too but I just cannot tolerate that woman's faux southern gal sham while being an incredibly ill-mannered rude beast. /end stupid pet peeve.

Besides my pet peeve, there is nothing about her policies that would be good for America.

48 posted on 09/21/2016 2:41:51 PM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: hsmomx3
I just saw something on Facebook about her bowing out of the debate on Monday. I forget the name of the source it came from (some news outlet) and I was not sure if it was one of those phony news sites.

Interesting. Need some popcorn to watch all the lies, uh, i mean excuses, unfold for that one.

49 posted on 09/21/2016 2:46:29 PM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: Ransomed

I do know an elderly lady, frail and 93 but of good sound mind, who is probably going to make her decision based on the debates. She can’t see well enough to read. Is sharp enough of mind to know the media is biased, but she does not know for whom she will vote yet. She has based her votes on debates in the past 2 presidential elections. Sharp as a tack too.


50 posted on 09/21/2016 2:52:48 PM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: mrsmith
I disagree. Think he'll have to show a depth of knowledge- to some extent.

Looking "presidential" doesn't mean how his suit fits. It means knowledge, demeanor, etc.

51 posted on 09/21/2016 3:18:56 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: AmusedBystander

Fair enough. Often it’s used to just mean demeanor.


52 posted on 09/21/2016 3:20:28 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Mariner

Yea, remember how Biden beat Eddie Munster just by laughing at him?


53 posted on 09/21/2016 3:23:31 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Hillary is Satan's spiritual advisor.)
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To: Kaslin

And Democrats/media can’t control the narrative with Trump in, especially as his conservative policies start to show big results.

Trump is a happy-day, Clinton is a doomsday.


54 posted on 09/21/2016 4:51:48 PM PDT by Son House (The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009; the Original Legislative Fraud.)
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To: Wneighbor

She has no guiding political philosophy? I don’t know, she could vote for a dem one time, and then a pub or whatever based on debate performance?

Freegards


55 posted on 09/21/2016 5:14:31 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Mariner
Between her and the Mods they intend to slay Trump. Every question, every rebuttal will be a shot to the head.

And that's why she has no events planned this week...No doubt Hillary and the moderator are going over the questions and attacks that will be leveled at Trump...

56 posted on 09/21/2016 6:02:54 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mariner
That's fantasy. She's smart like the devil his own self.

LOL!

57 posted on 09/21/2016 11:36:29 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: Ransomed

Anyone who has not decided between Trump and Clinton at this point probably cannot decide whether to put salt, sugar or nothing in his coffee.


58 posted on 09/22/2016 2:50:45 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Ransomed
She has no guiding political philosophy? I don’t know, she could vote for a dem one time, and then a pub or whatever based on debate performance?

At age 93 I don't think anyone would be going to the trouble to read and watch all through this political cycle if they had no guiding political principles. I'm thankful she still cares enough about the future to make the effort, her husband and only child have both passed away in the last few years. She's seen so much change in the political parties in her life, and so much that she sees as misbehavior by politicians that she is no longer sticking with "her party."

She's a very private person. I'm trying not to go into details. I could give you the list of details about why *I* am pretty certain she'll give us a vote for Trump. She does NOT think ANY woman should be president, BUT we need Trump to not have any comments that would have been seen as vulgar in pre-1980's America.

59 posted on 09/22/2016 7:13:19 AM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: Kaslin; All

I hope Donald Trump reads this article before the Debate.


60 posted on 09/22/2016 7:37:40 AM PDT by Marys Lamb
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