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[bigbob]

If the SHTF, I know which one you’ll be driving

[Dr. Sivana]

Nice wagon you got that is a full frame right?

It is. The last full size wagon GM made, and it has the LT-1 350. I used to have a '65 Chrysler 300. the brakes were awful and the 4 barrel carb (on the base 383 big block) was a bit finicky. That led to me becoming a fuel injection wimp. I still miss my '66 Dodge Dart with the Slant 6. Points were easy to get at (due to the cylinders only being on one side) and the car didn't have any gizmos to go wrong, not even power steering (although it was A/T).

I've seen a number of well-maintained International Harvesters of your vintage and older here in Georgia. I'm not a truck guy, but the IH's are very cool.

every car after ‘72 or ‘74 has a computer of some sort

They had catalytic converters, and "electronic brains" were starting to come in (easily undone, as the first generation was awful, so my '79 Dodge Diplomat had its undone). Far from universal. My 1976 Dodge Dart had the cat converter, but no computers.

[wally_bert]

Assuming any of them run in the first place.

[wally_bert]

I’ve never seen a CJ6 in real life, only pictures.

[wally_bert]

That is a sharp looking Bronco II. I’d love diesel power.

[IVAXMAN]

That is true, I removed my bronco computer and all the electronics from my Bronco to make it EMP proof when I converted to the diesel. Only component that would fail is the alarm system but I can bypass that easily and keep going.

[bigbob]

Virtually every vehicle since 2008 uses CAN bus networks as do many older ones. Only a fraction connect that network to any kind of wireless communication device. None should. The normal way to interface with the CAN network is by plugging a cable into the OBD-II connector under the dash.

[IVAXMAN]

Thanks I did ALL the work myself, it took some time and effort but mine is the only one like it that I know of.

[RetiredTexasVet]

Keep a spare couple of the modules in a grounded simple Faraday.

[wally_bert]

I wished I had the facilities and resources to pull off something even half of that.

I can’t ever recall of even hearing of something built like yours and I grew up around plenty of backyard mechanics, hot rodders, and builders. Some of it rubbed off on me at least.

I’m at the point where I will have to farm out some of the big jobs on my ragged old jeeps to a shop. Being limited to a carport and some minor health problems, some stuff isn’t practical now.

http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Todd4077/library/?sort=3&page=2

[wjcsux]

2004 F-150, no problem.
1967 GTO, no problem.

[arthurus]

including its ability to break. Really? That would seem to be a good thing. Tesla should build that ability into the cars in the first place.

[IVAXMAN]

I love those old jeeps ! They are a blast to drive and you can go anywhere ! People snatch those things up quick if you ever try to sell them. I hear ya, I am 56 and got a lot of bruised knuckles doing all that work, I’m gonna drive my bronco ii till I die :)

[MarchonDC09122009]

You are fully correct and knowledgeable.

The Auto industry consortium, NIST Gov’t, and infosec orgs are establishing security standards, practices to assure vehicle safety and privacy.

For instance NIST-GTO69 standards recommend application of dark 3M window tint film to assure occupant privacy for back seat sex acts and driver seat auto-stimulation.
;n)

Seriously though -
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RE: “Virtually every vehicle since 2008 uses CAN bus networks as do many older ones. Only a fraction connect that network to any kind of wireless communication device. None should. The normal way to interface with the CAN network is by plugging a cable into the OBD-II connector under the dash.”

[Made In The USA]

Nice ride!!! Had a 4wd Bronco II years ago, not quite like your diesel..

[wally_bert]

Even at $70 a pop, I may go ahead and do it.

[arthurus]

I won’t buy a car that has so much as a key with a chip in it. Actually I won’t buy a car manufactured after about 1996.
Electronic controls are open to hacking and someone else driving your car with you trying to drive it yourself. Consider the Toyotas that are totally drive-by-wire. A determined wargaming 12 year old could probably take it over remotely and surely could if he had a chance to plug in a USB or something else into the car’s system.

[arthurus]

96 Cavalier here.

[arthurus]

On that Camry the steering wheel is no more than a rheostat. I worry about those things. What happens if the electric system fails? Nothing then can work, no?

[Dr. Sivana]

1996 was the first year that they standardized on the OBD-II computer hookup , but even then most of it is diagnostic sensors. I know people who love their Cavaliers. I need/want more room, but you’ll go farther on a gallon, I’m sure.