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Moody's: Sears' and Kmart's shutdown is imminent
businessinsider.com ^ | Sep. 14, 2016 | Hayley Peterson

Posted on 09/14/2016 2:25:22 PM PDT by PROCON


Moody's analysts say Sears and Kmart don't have enough money — or access to money — to stay in business.

In a note published Wednesday, the analysts downgraded Sears' liquidity rating, saying the company is bleeding cash and will have to continue to rely on outside funding or the sale of assets, such as real estate, to sustain operations.

"We recognize the risks associated with relying on these sources and continued shareholder support to finance its negative operating cash flow which is estimated by Moody's to be approximately $1.5 billion this year," the analysts wrote.

Kmart in particular is at risk of shutting down, according to Moody's.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; bhoeconomy; business; ecommerce; kmart; retail; sears
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To: LouieFisk

Sam Walton had a small Mom and Pop store, then he bought some bankrupt BEN FRANKLIN stores, and reorganized as WALMART.


121 posted on 09/14/2016 5:17:44 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: nclaurel; PAR35; Still Thinking; Repeal The 17th; saltshaker; Popman
Well, I guess K-Mart bought Sears...


122 posted on 09/14/2016 5:21:16 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: catnipman

Indeed it did. The writing had been on the wall since the early ‘90s. It may be that Kodak was just too big a ship to turn so suddenly. As it was, their new product pipeline was so long that by the time products went from R&D to the shipping dock, they were obsolete and noncompetitive.

Everyone could see it coming, but they were frozen in the headlights.


123 posted on 09/14/2016 5:31:00 PM PDT by sparklite2 (The game overs whether you play it or not.)
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To: PROCON

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Sears used to make a ton on gun sales. When they discontinued guns their volume dropped by about 25%


124 posted on 09/14/2016 5:34:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: sparklite2

One of the odd things to me is that Kodak was one of the earliest players in digital. I have no idea what happened but they somewhere lost their way.

Are they still in business?


125 posted on 09/14/2016 5:36:59 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

They’ve shed most everything since going Chapter 11 in 2012.
No more sensitized products except for movie film. They plan to focus on the corporate digital imaging market, whatever the heck that is. IOW, she’s dead, Jim.


126 posted on 09/14/2016 5:42:35 PM PDT by sparklite2 (The game overs whether you play it or not.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; PAR35
Wikipedia:
"Walmart founder Sam Walton started in retailing
operating a Ben Franklin store."

I just remember the one by the corner with all the other corner
stores when I was a young 'un. Back then the corner
drugstore had a soda fountain and a "U-Test-M":


127 posted on 09/14/2016 6:02:59 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk

As a kid I used to shop at his store on the west side of the square in Bentonville, AR. It was later sold, became a book store, then an ice cream store, then restored to the original WALTON’S facade.

Before he opened his Bentonville store(WALTON’S) he had considered moving to downtown Siloam Springs Arkansas.

There was another 5&10 on the north west corner of the square, owned by someone else.


128 posted on 09/14/2016 6:21:14 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Walton’s = or became Walmart, then?


129 posted on 09/14/2016 6:25:52 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: blueplum

And I have a Sears boat (1965 15’ runabout). Love it!


130 posted on 09/14/2016 6:31:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Yo-Yo

Ha ha. I love her!


131 posted on 09/14/2016 6:50:38 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Yo-Yo

If someone wonders how many people are reading their comments...
That’s a sure way to find out.


132 posted on 09/14/2016 6:56:42 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: AU72
Radio had the infrastructure to get a head start in the PC retail market, but their PC sucked.

Radio Shacks belly up dead everywhere. They could have had it all, if they had built smart phones, laptop and tablet computers. Run by stupid people. They had the factories, engineers, supply lines and retail stores, and frittered it all away. They could have made it with PCs in the 1980s, but as you say their Tandy computers sucked big time.

133 posted on 09/14/2016 6:57:50 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: yarddog
Are they still in business?

I don't know if Kodak is still around, but my wife has an early Kodak digital camera that uses 1.4MB floppy disks. Not even a megapixel resolution, about 2/3rds that? Stupid camera made worthless pictures.

134 posted on 09/14/2016 7:02:20 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

At one time Kodak had a digital camera which was simply a Nikon N90s with a replacement digital back. The back itself was about as large as a large camera by itself.

It was a very fine camera but the digital back was only 1.3MP. At the time tho that was cutting edge and a whole lot of professional journalist photographers used them.

That was more than enough resolution for a newspaper photo.

An interesting fact was you could restore it to a film camera by simply putting an original film back on it. That was so early in digital that a lot of people did that.


135 posted on 09/14/2016 7:08:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: sparklite2

“Everyone could see it coming, but they were frozen in the headlights.”

Me too.

Kodak had marvelous inventions in the lab that could have easily saved them, but their management was still living in the 19th Century.

I remember visiting their Rochester lab sometime in the 90’s at the height of their big copier business when they were actually beating Xerox because the Kodak machines were WAY more reliable.

We went to look at some OCR software they were developing to sell, but as I remember almost everybody had OCR just about done at the time, so no big whoop.

But we DID see a BIG 4-color copier that was revolutionary. This was at the time when smaller, Ethernet-attached printers were just starting to come out. So I was REALLY excited about what they had and suggested that if they just tacked on a rasterization engine and an Ethernet interface, they would have a world-beater of a product WAY ahead of the competition, even though they were just working on a high-speed, high-capacity model.

Well, our excitement was squelched faster than the Pointy-Head Boss could whip out a fire-hose when we were told that management wouldn’t allow what we suggested because the only market that MANAGEMENT could possibly imagine for that color copier were that CEO’s of the Fortune 500 companies might want one for their own offices so their secretaries could prepare color hand-outs for them for big meetings, like board meetings, etc., and the marketplace wouldn’t be much bigger than that for color copiers/printers.

I shook my head and absolutely knew right then and there on the spot that Kodak was going to go bankrupt, and it was just a matter of time.

True story.


136 posted on 09/14/2016 7:37:56 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: blueplum

You could even buy a car from Sears. The Allstate series.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allstate_(automobile)


137 posted on 09/14/2016 7:47:50 PM PDT by Clay Moore (JRandomFreeper, SWAMPSNIPER RIP)
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To: Clay Moore

We had a neighbor in 1953-54 who drove a Henry J. It was a small car and I have never seen another one.


138 posted on 09/14/2016 7:55:47 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

I keep looking around for a Henry J to make a Gasser out of. Big 671 GMC blower sticking out of he hood...

I’ll get to it right after I finish the 100000 other projects I have.


139 posted on 09/14/2016 8:16:08 PM PDT by Clay Moore (JRandomFreeper, SWAMPSNIPER RIP)
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To: scrabblehack

Yes you are absolutely correct, and I hadn’t thought about the possibility that they probably are rented facilities.


140 posted on 09/15/2016 3:02:10 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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