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Waco Punishment Continues
The Aging Rebel ^ | 9/12/2016

Posted on 09/13/2016 7:22:08 PM PDT by Elderberry

What has always been most despicable about the Twin Peaks tragedy is that a little clique or hick politicians have been allowed to violate the contract that has always existed between Americans and their government. We owe our government our loyalty, obedience and sometimes the blood of our sons. Our government owes us our basic human rights including, but not limited to, our liberty and our property.

The notion that the English speaking peoples should only be punished when they break the law rather than at the whim of some bloated toad like McLennan County prosecutor Abelino Reyna was first codified when England’s worst king ever, the only one named John, was forced by his subordinates to sign a document called the Magna Carta or “Great Charter.”

While the story of the “Battle of Twin Peaks” has always been presented by both Waco officials and the world’s press as a blood soaked, television melodrama nobody except the Breitbart News Network – which all the rest of the American press detests – seems to understand that the melodrama is an idée fixe. The real story is that the aftermath of the “Battle” resulted in a complete abrogation of the 800-year-old idea that we should be ruled by rules and not by madmen.

Why Reyna and his assistant stooges, and Judge Matt Johnson, and Justice of the Peace Walter H. “Pete” Peterson acted like lunatics is anybody’s guess. Maybe there is a method to their madness. Maybe they are just mad. The fact remains that they are all either ignorant of or contemptuous of the most ancient and revered laws in our history.

A Little History

The Magna Carta of 1215 declared, “No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.”

In 1354 the greatest English King, Edward III, codified this provision of the Magna Carta as, “No man of what state or condition he be, shall be put out of his lands or tenements nor taken, nor disinherited, nor put to death, without he be brought to answer by due process of law.”

This idea of “due process” was so inherent to Anglo-Saxon justice that 400 years after Edward III died, due process became part of the Bill of Rights, the Constitutional elaboration of our self-evident human rights. The Fifth Amendment states in part that “No person shall be…deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

Asset Forfeiture

About seven hours after the exchange of gunfire between some few members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club, some few members of other motorcycle clubs and police, Reyna ordered the arrests of 177 people. Most of them were victims. One hundred fifty-four men have since been indicted in what can only be described as a mockery of the grand jury system. The threat of indictment hangs over another 40 victims of the “Battle.”

And in the days after the arrests scores of vehicles were impounded, Most of them were released within a month, often because the people who drove or rode them to the restaurant that day didn’t have clear title to them. “I received a 2007 Harley Davidson motorcycle for possible forfeiture involving this case at Twin Peaks,” a Waco cop named Vincent Glenn wrote in June. “During my investigation, I discovered the motorcycle has a lien on it. I confirmed the validity of the lien through the lien holder, Unity One Credit Union. I released the vehicle on 6-10-15. At this time, we will not be seeking forfeiture on this bike.”

Some of the vehicles seized by police went to lien holders and the people who had been paying for them never saw them again. Four hundred eighty-five days after the event, Waco police are still holding 16 motorcycles and 10 trucks seized from people who have never been proven to have committed any crime. The forfeiture proceedings have become something both dead and unborn – rotting Waco and the state of Texas from the inside out. The forfeiture proceedings cannot continue until the owners of the vehicles can somehow be connected to the violence. They can’t be connected until Reyna reveals the evidence that supports his claims. There is no evidence. The claims are imaginary. Therefore the case can’t end until Reyna and his former law partner Johnson either lose an election or allow the accused to spend a fortune proving their innocence.

Even The Waco Trib

Even the Waco Tribune-Herald, which has so far been a cheerleader for this Constitution burning, has noticed. Over the weekend, Tommy Witherspoon told the tale of 42-year-old Diego Obledo who stuffed a copy of the New Testament in his pocket and drove his fully paid-off, 2009 Toyota Venza to the Twin Peaks. When the shooting started he hid behind his car. He was arrested and spent 15 days in jail because he was wearing a Bandidos tee shirt under the shirt with the New Testament in the pocket. He also had a Valerosos Motorcycle Club tee shirt in his car. He lost his home, he lost his job and the city of Waco still has his SUV.

Obledo’s truck and the other vehicles were impounded by Waco with the intention that they would eventually be sold so the money could be given to the police department.

There is a significant body of case law that recognizes the concept of “substantive” as well as “procedural” due process. Most of the cases define legitimate and illegitimate uses of “police power authority.” Legitimate police power authority cannot be “arbitrary and unreasonable” and it can only be used to further a legitimate “public interest.”

Seasons change. Presidential candidates come and go. The news cycle grinds great tragedies into puffs of dust. Apparently no judge or elected official will ever think that what Reyna and his crew did was arbitrary and unreasonable. Apparently no one need ever explain to the public what their interest was when the police stole Diego Obledo’s Toyota.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biker; texas; waco
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1 posted on 09/13/2016 7:22:08 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Most people have forgotten about this travesty. Thanks for posting about it!


2 posted on 09/13/2016 7:30:25 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Elderberry; Salamander

IBTG


3 posted on 09/13/2016 7:45:46 PM PDT by shibumi (Dancin in the Dark with Tramps in the Park, I'm the Fleetfoot VooDoo Man)
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To: Elderberry

This whole thing is beyond a travesty. The judges, prosecutor and the entire Waco police department should either be run out of town on a rail or hung in the town square.

It is a violation of decency that these scum are still walking free.

For those who say “but most of the police are GOOD guys”, I ask: So why haven’t they arrested and incarcerated the perpetrators of this monstrous injustice?

Those not directly involved are JUST as culpable for their inaction. Silence infers consent!


4 posted on 09/13/2016 7:46:16 PM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Elderberry

I still suggest that this sting was concocted to be an example of how to deal with motorcycle clubs for use in a meeting of http://www.midwestomgia.org


5 posted on 09/13/2016 7:55:24 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: shibumi; Don W

*All* bikers are now on the Obeyme DOJ radar.

Why?

98% of them are conservative , they support Trump and the majority are “loathsome” veterans.


6 posted on 09/13/2016 8:00:32 PM PDT by Salamander (I ride by night, and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: BraveMan; Smokin' Joe

Hell no.
Never forget.


7 posted on 09/13/2016 8:01:10 PM PDT by Salamander (I ride by night, and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: Elderberry

This does not mention that 7 of the 9 autopsy reports suspiciously point to being shot from above, as in the cops were waiting on the roof. Nor does it highlight that some of those arrested actually were inside the restaurant assisting people to safety. The police and DA’s office are as crooked as they come in Waco, Texas.


8 posted on 09/13/2016 8:15:10 PM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: Elderberry

After Glenn Beck moved to Texas, he used to say on his radio show, “Come to Texas for the freedom.”

Yeah, sure.


9 posted on 09/13/2016 8:15:20 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)
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To: Elderberry

Jeez, when will it all end? Reyna & cronies apparently are trying to drag it out as long as possible. Those statist goons will get “theirs” at some point when civil justice eventually catches up with them — just as it eventually caught up with Nifong & others in the Duke Lacrosse case.


10 posted on 09/13/2016 8:18:53 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: House Atreides
Another mass arrest, also in Texas took over six years for all the cases to go thru the courts. And no one was killed that time.

One of the largest mass arrests in recent U.S. history, HPD rounded up nearly 300 people during the August 2002 raid at the Kmart parking lot on Westheimer.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Settlement-reached-in-02-Houston-street-racing-1588940.php

11 posted on 09/13/2016 8:34:39 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Texas should hang it’s collective head in shame for Waco. Actually, the entire Just Us System in Texas needs to be excized. Some of the “leadership” in Texas is as bad as we have in Washington DC. Texans are still trying to pick up their “judicial turd” by the “clean end!”


12 posted on 09/13/2016 8:50:20 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Wneighbor
Has anyone been indicted for homicide yet?
You've got video,forensics and eyewitness accounts all in broad daylight. This should have been a slam dunk.
13 posted on 09/13/2016 10:47:37 PM PDT by SanchoP (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F.K)
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To: Elderberry

IBTG


14 posted on 09/13/2016 11:09:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (Hillary Clinton is not sophisticated enough to understand the Bill of Rights, either.)
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To: SanchoP
Has anyone been indicted for homicide yet?

154 Have been indicted for homicide

15 posted on 09/14/2016 5:28:31 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: SanchoP

Not a soul indicted for homicide that I’ve seen or heard. The most current news items have been hearings over finding a special prosecuter or not. Reyna overstepped his bounds as a prosecuter by inserting himself into the investigation. He’s been sued in civil court and the wheels of justice are spinning deciding who should be recused and who shouldn’t.

I have friends personally hurt by this, law abiding, tax paying, business owning citizens. By the grace of God my husband and I were taking care of rental property and were neither on our bikes in McClennan county that day. We don’t live in Mc Co, but adjacent, and work is in Waco.


16 posted on 09/14/2016 6:19:09 AM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: Elderberry; SanchoP

Silly me, I took the homicide question backward. As if the guy who started the shooting might be indicted instead of those caught in the crossfire.


17 posted on 09/14/2016 6:22:42 AM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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To: Wneighbor

Is the jail down there still a for profit, privately run (corporate) enterprise?

If someone were to investigate who owns it, having a sudden influx of inmates might provide a money trail to the people who should be decorating lampposts down there.


18 posted on 09/14/2016 6:53:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (America has given itself over to evil. The Almighty will give it the government it deserves.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

bump ,,, like that train of thought, does have merit for investigation....


19 posted on 09/14/2016 7:04:49 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Smokin' Joe

There have been news items lately about abandoning the privately owned jail so I’m not sure if its still private or has reverted to county as of now. But you have a valid point. I’d have to go back and read up but i think the 177ish arrested were taken to another location because there wasn’t enough room in McCo.

Since we live across the county line we dont get to vote on those scumbags. It makes me sick to my stomach tho that the attitude of people in Waco buy into their law enforcement horse excrement. These same citizens mostly still support the Janet Reno/Clinton attack in 93. The citizens of the county seriously believe this is the law enforcement they want. It’s mind blowing. On the day of the Twin Peaks attack we were following via news items on the phone. In the reports released by waco police’s PR guy I found him changing his story of “facts” enuf times that there were obvious blatant lies. Much like Hillary lies. These were in print, searchable, but friends and co-workers in Waco were blind to the lies. This is why the scum keep being reelected.


20 posted on 09/14/2016 7:22:04 AM PDT by Wneighbor (I'm deplorable.)
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