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Boeing rolls out T-X trainer prototype
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| September 13, 2016
Posted on 09/13/2016 9:50:06 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
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posted on
09/13/2016 9:57:51 AM PDT
by
Steely Tom
(Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
To: sukhoi-30mki
But I'll still give the contract to Lockheed. Mostly because Lockheed already worked to build a trainer that meets this very need with Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) T-50 Golden Eagle trainer--and Lockheed has plentiful production floor space needed to build this trainer at their Marietta, GA assembly line.
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posted on
09/13/2016 10:00:48 AM PDT
by
RayChuang88
(FairTax: America's economic cure)
To: sukhoi-30mki
First take - It looks to "foreign" in design. I know, I know, the T-45 is a British design.
NGs T-X looks more "traditional".
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posted on
09/13/2016 10:01:20 AM PDT
by
pfflier
To: pfflier
Forgot to mention Lockheed's entry. Looks a lot like an F-16. It looks "too traditional", like an imitation.
All in all though, if it lookas and more importantly, acts like an F-16 it will be sweet to fly. Just what you want in a trainer.
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posted on
09/13/2016 10:05:09 AM PDT
by
pfflier
To: sukhoi-30mki
That's 18,000 lbs
with afterburner.
The F404's thrust specs are almost exactly the same as the venerable J-79 of fifty years ago; about 11,000 lbs dry, 18,000 lbs with afterburner.
The F404 has just a little bit better fuel consumption than did the J-79, 0.81 lb/lb-hr vs 0.85 for the J-79 (dry).
Big difference seems to be in weight and size.
F404 is about four feet shorter than the J-79, and is about half the weight.
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posted on
09/13/2016 10:07:34 AM PDT
by
Steely Tom
(Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Looks like they’re pushing the envelope with that eensey weensey nose wheel! Short coupled too, with close proximity to the CG maybe.
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posted on
09/13/2016 10:32:03 AM PDT
by
amorphous
To: sukhoi-30mki
A nice toy for the wealthy; like a high end sports car is for drivers.
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posted on
09/13/2016 10:33:26 AM PDT
by
JimRed
(Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Makes you wonder what else Boeing screwed up with the plane if they can’t even get the press release right.
“The aircraft was rolled out from Boeing’s facility in St.Louis, Missouri were the F/A-18 and F-15 fighters are assembled.”
Someone should have yelled, “Where the ‘h’ is the ‘h’? in ‘where’”
Checked the site - they still haven’t fixed it.
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posted on
09/13/2016 10:42:36 AM PDT
by
PAR35
To: pfflier
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posted on
09/13/2016 12:02:30 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: PAR35
Someone should have yelled, Where the h is the h? in where Checked the site - they still havent fixed it.
The word wasn't highlighted with a red squiggly underline, so it's fine.
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posted on
09/13/2016 12:55:11 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: Secret Agent Man
Pics are in the post on my computer.
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posted on
09/13/2016 12:55:56 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: Yo-Yo
I dont see pics for the lockheed f16 lookalike.
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posted on
09/13/2016 12:58:50 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: Yo-Yo
This error is the result of people relying on spell check.
No actual, eyeball, editing might be cheaper but embarrassing mistakes will happen.
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posted on
09/13/2016 1:47:21 PM PDT
by
BatGuano
(You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
To: Steely Tom
I would have loved to fly this new trainer. I didn't even get to fly the T-38 Talon. Was stuck in the T-37 and T-33 for my training. The “T-bird engine produced 3,500 lbs of thrust for a 15,100 Gross Weight airplane. Nothing like this new bird.
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posted on
09/13/2016 1:54:58 PM PDT
by
BatGuano
(You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
To: Secret Agent Man
Oops, I misread your post.
Lockheed T-50 and F-16:
![](http://afbase.com/files/attach/images/244071/498/294/T_50___F_16.jpg)
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posted on
09/13/2016 1:58:17 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: PAR35
Makes you wonder what else Boeing screwed up with the plane if they cant even get the press release right. Except that particular line is not in the official Boeing press release -at all. It is direct copy from the host site this posting links back to.
But go ahead and trash Boeing anyway since you obviously have some axe to grind.
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posted on
09/13/2016 1:58:41 PM PDT
by
liberty_lvr
(My personal likes and dislikes are totally irrelevant to the salvation of this nation.)
To: BatGuano
Maybe I’m seeing things, but that airplane looks like it could become an actual fighter plane with the addition of weapons.
I’m referring specifically to the full-area control surfaces on the tail. These make it suitable for supersonic flight, correct?
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posted on
09/13/2016 1:58:58 PM PDT
by
Steely Tom
(Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
To: Steely Tom
It's supposed to replace the T-38 Talon, which is supersonic ... that's the whole point. It's a supersonic trainer for pilots who will transition to supersonic fighters.
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posted on
09/13/2016 2:01:16 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
To: Secret Agent Man
Lockheed T-50 Data:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/aero/documents/t-50/t50_product_card_dom_a11-34324d001.pdf
Northrop Grumman T-X Data:
http://www.combataircraft.net/2016/08/19/northrop-grummans-t-x-breaks-cover/
Boeing Data in thread and here:
http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2016/09/boeing-rolls-out-t-x-trainer-prototype.html
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posted on
09/13/2016 2:30:46 PM PDT
by
pfflier
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