Posted on 09/04/2016 11:15:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
Just when you cannot envision the ignorance of the Left dipping any lower, they confound you with their dismal destruction via good intentions. The latest comes from a poll stating despite the fact registered voters believe that people will lose their jobs and businesses will relocate out of state, they still overwhelmingly support the increase in minimum wage to $15 per hour in California.
The Democrat-owned legislature -- the ones that are not in jail or under indictment -- passed a bill that would gradually raise the minimum wage from $10 to $15 in 2022. The poll says 64 percent of Californians support that. That is while 66% of them believe that people will be laid off and 65 percent say that businesses will leave the state. What would have been interesting is if the people who took the poll would have asked poll participants: Would you support the increase if your son or daughter were laid off? Would you support it if your spouse’s business relocated to Utah, North Carolina or Texas? It is always easy to say that policies are good when they are affecting the other person or their family.
Here is where matters get fascinating. Thankfully 89 percent percent believe the new wage level will raise the prices they are paying, even though I think they do not realize how much it will impact the costs of the goods they buy. Still 11 percent said it would not impact prices. I am not quite sure what level of education these people have. I am undecided whether they are people who never graduated high school or ones with advanced college degrees. You have to be from another planet to not understand that raising the minimum wage 50 percent will severely impact the cost of goods. That is without even thinking through how the increase will impact all wages up and down the workforce
69 percent of the Californians believe the raise in minimum wage will give lower-income workers more money to spend. That response is baffling. If someone was making $10 and now is making $15, one would think they would have more money to spend. Maybe secretively they realize that many people who still have jobs will be cut back on hours and certainly never see an hour of overtime; thus, they are no better off. Maybe they were factoring in the fact that many workers will be replaced by Robby the Robot.
In another question, 58 percent of respondents stated they thought that employers will benefit from less employee turnover and higher customer satisfaction. It is unclear on what basis this belief was derived. It is understandable in certain circumstances employees who are better compensated will have greater job satisfaction, but that does not necessarily show up in customer satisfaction.
When debating the poll with someone I wrote this:
The severe economic hardship that is being done to millennials worldwide by work rules and to the low income workers by extreme wage increases that are going to put many lower-skilled employees permanently out of work is stupefying:
1. Teenagers will be restricted from getting job experience, stopping career growth and making them less hirable in the future.
2. Others will have no opportunity to have a job at all.
3. California already has the highest poverty rate in the nation. This will only exacerbate that while the people who have high-paying jobs and/or work for the government live in ignorance of that.
What exact benefit do these people think is going to be derived from this? That is what this poll does not really ask. How about asking: Do you still endorse this policy knowing hundreds of thousands of people will be put out of work and never, ever be able to get a job?
I focus on restaurant workers because that is the business I know. A gentleman who owns car washes in New York had a recent comment in the WSJ. He said the new $15 wage would force him to charge $30 for a carwash. That would either cause people to stop going to get their car washed or go from once a week to once a month. He said he had no choice but to mechanize which would put 15 of 22 of his employees at one of his car washes out of work.
Where are those 15 people going to ever find another job? Who is going to support them?
We all understand the failure of good intentions, but this is beyond that. And I did not even get into how this is a plan to raise the wages of the unions and union members and they are willing to sacrifice non-union members. Or let’s talk about inflation and bringing back the good old days of Jimmy Carter.
Though it is always difficult to structure a poll based on economic factors due to a severe lack of understanding of the issues by the public, if the poll asked the hard follow-up questions I suggested, the outcome would have been different and the Leftists in the Legislature would not have the comfort of feeling they have the public’s support.
The Left’s successes are always paved with destroyed lives from their unintended consequences.
Our latest water bill her in Los Angeles, thanks to the IDIOTS in Sacramento, was almost $500!! We overwatered our (dying) garden, got 2nd and 3rd tier fines. They have curtailed water to So Cal because they want to save the smelt in the Delta. Last smelt I saw for sale were from Canada anyway! They saved 3 last year! They dump all the water into the ocean to save the smelt.
I am sure their intentions are good. So will mine be - honorable - when I vote to Tar& Feather them. We are heading out of here asap.
While it would be nice if they’d poll people who aren’t still in grade school, it would be even better if they’d poll acults who can evidence higher education than that.
Californians are stupid and droves of them will vote for Hillary in November.
I used to live there and its gone from bad to worse.
Its everything you would want if Hillary gets that third Obama term.
Some future.
Ya know, the State of California is so Communist, Leftist, Marxist crazy, that if some state lege proposed a bill that, for a fee, anyone wishing to dissolve themselves from their state of birth, just might pass the legislature!
(I understand the ramifications of what i just said, but I am one who is continually soiled, through that kind of connection to that infernal state of 50.)
The disintegrated mode of thought of libtards includes the belief of an anti-utilitarian and categorical imperative type of morality where doing what is considered to be the right thing (egalitarianism and redistributionism) is required, and bad consequences are irrelevant. This is irrational kantianism in action. One has a duty to do what is considered to be right as an end in itself.
Lived in LA from 1987-2005. Unfortunately, Kansas is becoming more liberal due to the indoctrination of the students and the move of libs and Rinos to the state.
There is a proposition (58) on the CA ballot this November that will do away with English-only instruction in schools, and reintroduce teaching in Spanish.
The English rule was voted on by CA citizens in 1998,
Proposition 58 has the support of the usual teachers’s unions and “public service” unions. They have raised about $600k. There is no formal opposition to the measure. The GOP of course has surrendered and is no where to be found on the issue.
I should not have to state the obvious but someone needs to tells these lib/commies (it is hard to tell where liberalism leaves off and Communism starts with these guys)that doing good or being good is someties better than feeling good. And when it comes to economics, the proper action of the government is to do nothing at all — even if it does contradicts man’s desire to rule and meddle.
The legislature is working as hard as they can to destroy this state. The just passed a bill providing farm workers with overtime. I am willing to bet that Brown Rot is going to sign it.
Also, there is another measure on the November ballot, Prop 47, which is going to release another whole boatload of criminals. This is going to finish turning this place into a hell hole. I am counting the days until we can leave.
“While it would be nice if they’d poll people who aren’t still in grade school, it would be even better if they’d poll acults who can evidence higher education than that.”
Education is no guarantee of sanity with liberals. One genius (actually 145 IQ) with a computer science degree replied to my comment that socialism has never worked anywhere it has been tried with, “I don’t care if it has never worked.” Not even the defense of saying it hasn’t been done right, just an admission that he wants it whether it works or not! No one is too educated to be stupid.
Here’s a question to ask:
If your waitress is making $15/hr (the same as you); will you still tip her?
If the average meal for two is $30 and the average tip is 10% say $3 and she servers an average of 5 tables per hour; that equals $15/hr in tips (much of which is tax free).
As their taxable income rises and their tax free income decreases; who really believes the waitress will be better off?
I agree.
Note they don’t care if Obama or Hillary are capable of being good leaders either.
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