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Is German diplomacy getting too chummy with Russia?
TheLocal.de ^ | 29 Aug 2016 17:04 GMT+02:00 | (DPA/The Local)

Posted on 08/29/2016 8:44:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Critics have been questioning the German Foreign Minister’s recent series of comments about working closer with Russia, with some labeling the diplomat a “Russia sympathizer”.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier continued to push his ideas for détente towards Russia on Monday, arguing for better relations between the two countries at a conference in Berlin. “We cannot simply wish away a Russia that has become immensely more difficult,” he said, calling for Germany and Russia to go from “a phase of confrontation and growing tensions, back to a reliable understanding of common security”.

His comments followed an opinion piece he wrote for daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung last week where he called for a new arms control deal with Russia in order to ease tensions between Moscow and the West. The foreign minister wrote that he wanted to avoid a “new and dangerous arms race” so as to ensure stability for Europe and that a new deal with Russia would be a “proven means for transparency, risk prevention and trust-building.” …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; eussr; fsbputin; kgbputin; molotovribbentrop; putin; sovietunion2; steinmeier
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1 posted on 08/29/2016 8:44:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe Merkel is interested in sitting down with Putin and signing a non-aggression pact.


2 posted on 08/29/2016 8:48:49 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

George Soros won’t be happy with that.


3 posted on 08/29/2016 8:50:27 AM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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To: Olog-hai

[Shrug] What’s the worst that could happen? [/s]


4 posted on 08/29/2016 8:51:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Olog-hai
We've seen this movie before.....


5 posted on 08/29/2016 8:52:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

The last time Germany and Russia got too chummy, Poland as invaded by both and WWII was started.


6 posted on 08/29/2016 8:52:31 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: dfwgator

Of course, I think Hitler should have been the “Bride” in that relationship.


7 posted on 08/29/2016 8:53:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Russia is without doubt on the move to restore their lost (evil) empire. Meanwhile, they have their internet trolls out in force pumping up Putin and his expansionist agenda. The Russians are masters of the art of deception and have been at the disinformation/propaganda game for a long time now. Still, they must laugh their butts off at how easily they have swayed minds here.


8 posted on 08/29/2016 9:00:42 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: Olog-hai

If you think that Russia is (still) our enemy you have 30 years of catching up to do.


9 posted on 08/29/2016 9:01:16 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: Snowybear

Let’s see: alliances with China and Iran. That in and of itself would make them our enemy. Unless you’re Obama, that is.


10 posted on 08/29/2016 9:04:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ETL

Go hide under your bed if you are so afraid of the Russians. They are not our friends, but they are not worse than the vile scum running this country for the last 8 years.


11 posted on 08/29/2016 9:09:50 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Snowybear
If you think that Russia is (still) our enemy you have 30 years of catching up to do.

Dumb azz. They continue to this day arming and supporting most of our enemies. They and the ChiComs have been conducting joint military games preparing for war against us for about 10 years now.

How Russia arms America's southern neighbors

Ioan Grillo
May 9, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Russia's push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.

Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.

Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.

In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russia's top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ..."

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/140508/russian-arms-military-trade-latin-america
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Russia Boosts Arms, Training for Leftist Latin Militaries

Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises

BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015

Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow's Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.

Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.

Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-boosts-arms-training-for-leftist-latin-militaries/

12 posted on 08/29/2016 9:12:09 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: SandRat

Also Ludendorff shipped Lenin back from Switzerland to Russia during the 1st World War so he could get the Russians out of the way. Started the whole Communist Revolution.


13 posted on 08/29/2016 9:14:17 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: Olog-hai

Let’s see: alliances with China and Iran. ..................... Sales = $$$$$$$$$, what does Russia have to gain other than $$$$$$ ? She has a very long border to defend, friends today, enemies tomorrow, or even enemies today friends tomorrow. Its the way of the world. We the people really have no control over it. Que sera sera.


14 posted on 08/29/2016 9:14:47 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016? ...................... What are they thinking? Another Evita, Imelda??)
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To: ohioman
Nah; they’re only run by a guy who equates socialism with “the Bible” and keeps his CPSU ID in spite of not being part of the descendant party, the CPRF (which is still one-fifth of the Duma).
15 posted on 08/29/2016 9:16:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ohioman
Go hide under your bed if you are so afraid of the Russians. They are not our friends, but they are not worse than the vile scum running this country for the last 8 years.

You jackass, the vile scum running this country for the last 8 years, despite the smokescreen BS, has tremendously aided the Russians through his missile defense and (NewSTART) nuke deals, including the Obama-Putin Iran nuke deal.

16 posted on 08/29/2016 9:16:15 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

The other side of that equation is overt alliance with the USA to defeat those presumed enemies.

Therefore, the only context here can be all of those together regarding the USA as a common foe. It’s been going on too long for it to be otherwise. Being part of the P5+1 to enable Iran’s nuclear weapons program only makes it more explicit, too (as Germany themselves are). Obama is “for it”.


17 posted on 08/29/2016 9:18:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ohioman
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"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...

"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."

"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.

If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."

http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism's crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100711090651/http://article.nationalreview.com/365528/forgetting-the-evils-of-communism/jonah-goldberg
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.

"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

18 posted on 08/29/2016 9:22:55 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: ETL

Yeah and in the meantime Putin is the only leader standing up for Christianity and the only one fighting ISIS on the ground.

Trump understands this and will strengthen our ties. And stop the name calling, you have no idea who you’re &^%$ing with.


19 posted on 08/29/2016 9:26:42 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: Olog-hai; Snowybear
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170287,00.html
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Sept 11, 2014

China and Russia to build major seaport: report

China and Russia will build one of the largest ports in north-east Asia on Russia's Sea of Japan coast, reports say, in a further sign of the powerhouses' growing alliance.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-11/china-and-russia-to-build-major-seaport-report/5738036
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Obama: "We Welcome China's Rise"
CBS News ^ | January 19, 2011 | Stephanie Condon
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"We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multipolar world," Chavez told reporters during a visit to Communist China, one of many. His "new world order" includes [RUSSIA], China, Iran,... and a significantly weakened United States, he explained.

Resurgent Communism in Latin America
by Alex Newman, March 16, 2010:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/south-america-mainmenu-37/3122-resurgent-communism-in-latin-america?tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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20 posted on 08/29/2016 9:27:55 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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