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The homeowner bears some responsibility for this one. He called the police and reported an armed man in his driveway. Then he grabbed his own gun and went to the garage to await the cops.

One moral of this story: When the police arrive at your home, they don't know who the good guys are, and who the bad guys are. Don't send them any misleading signals.

1 posted on 08/27/2016 9:54:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

Didn’t he have a dog???


2 posted on 08/27/2016 9:56:42 AM PDT by null and void (Has there ever been a death associated with the Clintons that *wasn't* beneficial to them?)
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To: Leaning Right
"Why did you shoot me?"

It's a mystery. Still trying to "untangle" the cop's motives.....


3 posted on 08/27/2016 9:56:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Leaning Right

Why does he bear any responsibility?


4 posted on 08/27/2016 9:59:28 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Leaning Right

Yes, when you call to report an armed intruder in your driveway, it’s probably best not to stand near the driveway with a gun in your hand. Almost sounds like he was trying to set up the cops or to do a suicide by cop.


5 posted on 08/27/2016 9:59:49 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Leaning Right; ExTexasRedhead

“One moral of this story: When the police arrive at your home, they don’t know who the good guys are, and who the bad guys are. Don’t send them any misleading signals. “

That’s BS! Cops “arrive” and their training is not to bother with trying to figure out the scene, just to start shooting anyone they “perceive” as a threat (dogs know this in spades, and they don’t even carry guns). You know, they “have to go home,” even if it means that an innocent bystander has to be injured by them or even die. And the problem is only going to get worse with more cops being shot, because they are going to be more “ risk averse” than they are already. So if you use a gun to protect yourself, you may end up dead trying to save yourself. Being a good cop is a very difficult job. Unfortunately too many of them lack the training and discpline to be good cops. My hat is off to the few that are good.


6 posted on 08/27/2016 10:02:26 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Leaning Right

He SHOULD have had the gun not knowing where the criminal was. The police SHOULD have announced their presence in no uncertain terms HANDS UP. and then the homeowner SHOULD have reached for the sky.

Cluster Fudge.


10 posted on 08/27/2016 10:09:25 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Leaning Right

Agreed.

In fact, the homeowner acted so poorly it crossed my mind that the armed robbery was faked to result in a settlement with the city over the shooting. Admittedly the homeowner risked his life in the attempt. But still...


12 posted on 08/27/2016 10:14:19 AM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: Leaning Right
some pieces missing ? :

the cops that arrived were given the description of the theif. What is not clear is, did the homeowner have his gun holstered or not. Not sure if the shooting Cop screwed the pooch, here.

Info from the 911 call

"In the 911 call, the homeowner, identified as Carl Williams, 48, can be heard comforting his wife who sounded distraught. You can also hear the man give a suspect description to police. He said the suspect was a black male with a rifle or long gun, wearing a dark colored baseball cap, and a red and white jacket. At the end of the call, the man can be heard saying “oh wait, is that him? Is that him?”

911 tapes

http://fox59.com/2016/08/23/police-release-names-of-officer-homeowner-involved-in-this-mornings-mistaken-identity-shooting/
18 posted on 08/27/2016 10:30:59 AM PDT by stylin19a
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I support the police and understand they put their lives on the line, but the shoot first ask who’s there second mentality needs to stop. We had rules of engagement in Iraq. Some might not have liked it, but volunteering to put yourself in harms way is not carte blanche to keep a twitchy finger resting on the trigger.


19 posted on 08/27/2016 10:32:19 AM PDT by douginthearmy
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Once you call the cops, HOLSTER YOUR F***KING GUN!!

Dumb move, he’s lucky he lived to tell it.

If the cops see a gun in your hand, you’ve got serious problems. If you have a guy at gunpoint, TELL the dispatcher where you are, what you are wearing and that you have a suspect AT GUNPOINT. Be ready to get thrown down and handcuffed until they straighten everything out.

Think like a cop. They don’t know you or that you’re the good guy. That way, everyone goes home.


20 posted on 08/27/2016 10:38:36 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: Leaning Right

Some cops shouldn’t be cops. They shoot anything that moves. Fortunately this is just a cop who is scared and shoots the first thing that moves. And not a cold blooded murder like that cop in Chicago.

That being said we need cops. Its a tough job. We would like them all to be good cops, both in quality and in morals.


23 posted on 08/27/2016 11:01:24 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Leaning Right
Um, the RP told 911 dispatch: ""Williams called 911 to report that a young man had pointed a gun at his wife in their driveway and demanded her car keys.""

The RP was nearly 50 years old.

Whoops!

25 posted on 08/27/2016 12:15:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Leaning Right

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Did he fail to notify the dispatcher that he would be armed?

Big mistake if he did.


26 posted on 08/27/2016 12:51:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Leaning Right

After hearing some strange noises front of the house in the small hours today, I was up armed.
If you have time a Kydex (plastic) holster is a good idea since it won’t `collapse’ like a worn leather holster and you can easily re-holster when you see flashing lights.
Sounds like the homeowner thought the robber might still be lurking.
Inside the waist band appendix carry, if your adrenaline isn’t such that you won’t shoot yourself and if you had time to put on trousers so you can conceal with a short tee-shirt. Otherwise put the gun down.
Btw it was the dog bumping around, seeing if there were any molecules of Alpo left in his bowl.


27 posted on 08/27/2016 1:07:44 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Next door neighbor is a state trooper. I called the city cops on a guy banging on his door at 3:00 AM at the same time he did. He held the guy at gunpoint until 7 cop cars came in both ways on the street. By the time they got to him, the trooper had his Glock in his pocket and his hands as high up as he could get them. They sorted out who was who later.


28 posted on 08/27/2016 1:14:18 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Leaning Right
"Why did you shoot me?"

"We're cops, it's what we do."

GEICO!

29 posted on 08/27/2016 1:18:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (~Putin made me post this!~)
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How nice of Yahoo to report this.

I’m sure they will follow up with hundreds of thousands of articles about cops who did NOT shoot anyone this week./s

I can’t wait.

.


31 posted on 08/27/2016 1:34:12 PM PDT by Mears
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