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Justice Department Says Poor Can't Be Held When They Can't Afford Bail
NBC News ^ | 08/19/16 | Pete Williams

Posted on 08/20/2016 7:01:19 PM PDT by Enlightened1

Holding defendants in jail because they can't afford to make bail is unconstitutional, the Justice Department said in a court filing late Thursday — the first time the government has taken such a position before a federal appeals court.

It's the latest step by the Obama administration in encouraging state courts to move away from imposing fixed cash bail amounts and jailing those who can't pay.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: afford; bail; justicedepartment; poor
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1 posted on 08/20/2016 7:01:19 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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Speechless here.


2 posted on 08/20/2016 7:03:09 PM PDT by NEMDF
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Crafted specifically with the BLM crowd in mind right?


3 posted on 08/20/2016 7:03:50 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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I agree with the "Just Us" Dept.

And also, white women are just axin for black men to rape them.


4 posted on 08/20/2016 7:04:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Exactly right.

This amounts to a complete breakdown of justice.

You’ll never get them in court.

There! Fixed!


5 posted on 08/20/2016 7:04:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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It is a valid point.


6 posted on 08/20/2016 7:04:52 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Now we know where all the crack-babies went. They went to law school.


7 posted on 08/20/2016 7:05:26 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Finicum was unavailable, Cliven is in solitary since February and Ryan was nearly assassinated. Hammond is losing his liberty and ranch for the uranium Clinton deal.


8 posted on 08/20/2016 7:05:32 PM PDT by combat_boots (MSM: We lie to you sheep at the slaughterhouse to keep you calm during slaughter)
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The dumbasses in our so called “justice” system taking care of their criminals again. If this is the way we’re going to play the damn game, NOBODY should have to pay bail. NOBODY! This is discriminating against those who work for a living.


9 posted on 08/20/2016 7:05:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Make Our Government and Founding Documents Great Again!)
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1....
How is this a 14th amendment issue?

2.
It is a 10th amendment issue.


10 posted on 08/20/2016 7:07:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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That’s what bond bailsman are for...


11 posted on 08/20/2016 7:07:33 PM PDT by Popman (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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We’re turning the country over to criminals.


12 posted on 08/20/2016 7:07:58 PM PDT by aquila48
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Bond is set depending on the severity of the crime.

Not ones ability to pay it.

This ain’t Night Court. “fifty dollars and time served”


13 posted on 08/20/2016 7:10:28 PM PDT by digger48
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Pretty much.....


14 posted on 08/20/2016 7:11:37 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Bond is set depending on the severity of the crime.

Forgot to add...

And whether or not they are a flight risk

15 posted on 08/20/2016 7:12:11 PM PDT by digger48
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So basically they are banning arrests for “poor” people.


16 posted on 08/20/2016 7:14:00 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: Theoria

I happen to agree with this.


17 posted on 08/20/2016 7:15:57 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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I’m no expert on this, but it’s my understanding that when a cash bond is demanded, the full amount of the bond must be paid. So, if there is a 1 million dollar cash bond, how is someone who earns 10k per year going to come up with 10% of that?

How many bondsmen are going to put up a million for a person who has no chance of ever paying that back?

I’m not absolutely sure why a cash bond is different from any other kind, only that I am aware of people who have been held in confinement for weeks/months without proof of guilt and no trial, because they can’t pay it.

That might be all well and good for a person who is actually guilty of something horrible bad, but without a trial there is no guilt.

We are to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and that’s what trials are for. If you have to wait a year or more for a trial, you can be imprisoned for all that time, and be found not guilty.

The down side is when someone did something horrible bad, and they must be released until trial.

But from my understanding, there are ways to keep a person confined for quite some time without charges anymore.


18 posted on 08/20/2016 7:16:31 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Enlightened1

Good to know I’ll never be held on bail for anything I might do.

Then again, anything I might do I’m sure I won’t intend to do
so there would be no reason to arrest me in the first place.


19 posted on 08/20/2016 7:16:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (~Our government lies and the media helps them.~)
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January 20, 2017


20 posted on 08/20/2016 7:19:39 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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