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Syrian Su-24s get intercepted and “encouraged to leave” by F-22 Raptors
The Aviationist ^ | 8/20/2016 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 08/20/2016 12:14:56 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Two Syrian Su-24 Fencer attempting to fly over a Kurdish-held area in northeastern Syria where U.S. SOF (Special Operations Forces) are operating, get intercepted by U.S. F-22 and encouraged to depart the airspace. Twice in the last few days, Syrian jets performing air strikes close to where U.S. SOF are operating in northeastern Syria caused coalition aircraft to scramble.

On Aug. 18, U.S. jets were dispatched to intercept the Syrian attack planes that were attacking targets near Hasakah supporting regime forces fighting the Syrian Kurdish forces. About 300 U.S. military operate in the same area, training Kurdish forces who are fighting Daesh.

Syrian pilots did not respond to the radio calls of the Kurdish on the general emergency frequency nor did they acknowledge calls attempted by the coalition on the air safety channel used for communication with the Russian aircraft operating over Syria.

Anyway, by the time U.S. fighters reached the area, the Syrian planes had already left.

Following the first “close encounter” the Pentagon warned Assad regime to not fly or conduct raids in the area where the American SOF are operating. However, on Aug. 19, two Su-24 Fencers, attempted again to penetrate the airspace near Hasakah.

This time, the two Syrian Arab Air Force attack planes were met by American F-22 Raptors (most probably already operating in the same area providing Combat Air Patrol).

As reported by ABC, a U.S. official said the presence of American F-22 aircraft “encouraged the Syrian aircraft to depart the airspace without further incident. No weapons were fired by the coalition fighters.”

This is not the first time the F-22 presence deters foreign military aircraft from harassing U.S. forces.

In March 2013, few months after two Sukhoi Su-25 attack planes operated by the Pasdaran (informal name of the IRGC – the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution) attempted to shoot down an American MQ-1 flying a routine surveillance flight in international airspace the Pentagon decided to escort the drones involved in ISR (intelligence surveillance reconnaissance) with fighter aircraft, including the Raptors.

In one very well-known episode, F-22 stealth jets providing HVAAE (High Value Air Asset Escort) to a U.S. Predator flew under the Iranian F-4E Phantoms that had intercepted the drone then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and radioed a famous “you really ought to go home” that allegedly scared the Iranian pilots off saving the drone.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: aviation; f22; syria
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To: silverleaf
the Syrians would not be attacking Kurdish forces unless the so-called Kurds were part of the islamic radicals

I agree...The Kurds are the only good guys over there and so far Obama has refuse to give then weapons or ammunition to fight with...Story doesn't make any sense...

81 posted on 08/20/2016 3:17:59 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: mvonfr

Meanwhile, 100,000 Iranian backed fighters are in Iraq and the US says that’s okay if Iraq invited them......


82 posted on 08/20/2016 3:18:30 PM PDT by MGG
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To: realcleanguy

Its the only way to take over, by the elites..the scumbags, the dead.


83 posted on 08/20/2016 3:48:19 PM PDT by aces ( Islam is the religion of the dead, Got Jesus?)
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To: silverleaf

Looks like the DC Demons are trying to get a war going between the Kurds and Syria. Our other great allies in the Middle East, the House of Saud, just bombed a pro-democracy demonstration in Yemen today.


84 posted on 08/20/2016 3:53:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I hope that the anti-American usurper in our White House knows what he’s doing. Intercepting Syrian jets in Syrian air space is an act of war. The druggie is playing a dangerous game with the lives of our pilots, soldiers, and special forces.


85 posted on 08/20/2016 4:00:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Iscool

Figured it out
Sadly
Read post 55
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0F2CZJVRk


86 posted on 08/20/2016 4:35:36 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: realcleanguy
Obama did arm Isis in the beginning and switched sides now. Anyway, regime change is not a us policy, Obama even said so

Well, if obama said so, it must be true. snicker snicker Sorry. I just couldn't say it with a straight face.

87 posted on 08/20/2016 5:31:05 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: dp0622

This. The YPG deserves our support.


88 posted on 08/20/2016 6:45:28 PM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: JudgemAll

Illegal by who?


89 posted on 08/20/2016 9:39:59 PM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: mvonfr

well then, they’ve taken a hell of a part! :)


90 posted on 08/20/2016 10:11:24 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: silverleaf

Stirring the pot where ever he can...


91 posted on 08/21/2016 6:36:34 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: dp0622

The Kurds were attacking a Christian village loyal to Assad. Assad seems to be the only player in the region that protects Christians. Why is it that USA policy is to over throw any middle eastern government that protects Christians?


92 posted on 08/21/2016 6:57:51 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

What are kurds doing attacking Christians!?!?!

I thought they were the one group we could trust!!

I was wrong. The other posters were right. We dont owe the kurds anything. Especially a world war.


93 posted on 08/21/2016 6:59:07 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: PJammers
Recent pilot interviews and flight tests revealed the F-35 surpassed the performance of all of our current aircraft excluding the F-22.

Bull.

94 posted on 08/21/2016 7:00:46 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

Thanks for this update
If Assad regime is attacking “ Kurds” then they are not good Kurds fighting ISIS, they are militant separatists starting to purge nonKurds from an area they claim and want to establish as a Kurd state

More genocide in the horizon

And of course Barky has US advisors( troops on the ground in Syria) to train arm and protect them - so yet again, we are backing bad guys

ISIS was plan A to destabilize Syria, this Kurd faction is Plan B


95 posted on 08/21/2016 7:05:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Mariner
Interestingly the F-35A has a 360deg infrared view with a range of 700miles to detect even a small AA missile launch.

At an altitude of 300,000 feet the horizon is less than 700 miles away. Infrared is light, light is line of sight so unless an F-35 can achieve low orbit there is no way it can see 700 miles away with infrared sensors.

http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm

96 posted on 08/21/2016 7:12:26 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: silverleaf
ISIS was plan A to destabilize Syria, this Kurd faction is Plan B

Yes that is correct.

97 posted on 08/21/2016 7:26:02 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

It depends on the altitude of the missile.


98 posted on 08/21/2016 7:33:46 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
I did the math and I gave you the url of a horizon calculator. There not much more I can do other than assert that unless the missile was launched from outer space an F-35 is not going to see it 700 miles away.

I also doubt there is a Ground to Air or Air to Air with a range of 700 miles. Russia best SAM the S-400 (now deployed in Syria) has a range of 250 miles, the range of course is determined by radar cross-section (RCS) and how much fuel is on board. I think Max range for a big not stealth target like a B-52 is about 300 miles. So by any and all measures the 700 mile claim is BS.

99 posted on 08/21/2016 7:56:51 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb
You are correct that I misstated the distance as 700miles.

It's 700km.

Which is not unrealistic for two aircraft operating at 50,000ft.

The officially published service ceiling for the F-35 is 60,000ft.

100 posted on 08/21/2016 9:11:25 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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