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Dr. James Tour Tells Us How Little We Know About the Origin of Life
Proslogion ^ | 8-18-16 | Dr. Jay L. Wile

Posted on 08/19/2016 8:52:42 AM PDT by fishtank

A few days ago, a reader asked me to review an article by Dr. James Tour, as well as a video of a talk that he gave. I was initially hesitant to do so, because Dr. Tour is a giant in the field of organic chemistry. For example, he is the T. T. and W. F. Chao Professor of Chemistry at Rice University. For those who aren’t familiar with the academic structure of universities, only the most elite professors are appointed to a position that is named in honor of someone else. This is called an “endowed professorship,” and anyone who holds such a position is in the upper echelon of academia. He has won several awards for his outstanding research accomplishments, including being named by Thomson Reuters as one of the top ten chemists in the world in 2009. Not only is his research outstanding, but he is also an excellent teacher, having earned the George R. Brown Award for Superior Teaching at Rice University in both 2007 and 2012. What could I possibly add to the words of someone so knowledgeable and distinguished?...

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.drwile.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; origins
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James Tour is a giant in the field of organic chemistry.

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1 posted on 08/19/2016 8:52:42 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank
"We have no idea how some of the most basic molecules necessary for life could have been produced by unguided processes."

Clear enough for me.


2 posted on 08/19/2016 9:05:45 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: fishtank

Anybody with much of a background in chemistry or physics is aware that atoms are basically an erector set that can be used to create anything, including living creatures.

In other words, the blueprint for life is built into the very structure of matter.

How did that happen? That’s the real question.


3 posted on 08/19/2016 9:07:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: fishtank

All we know is that God didn’t do it because God has moral requirements on man. Therefore there is no god, it happened by chance and 99.99% of scientists believe life occurred by random chance.


4 posted on 08/19/2016 9:19:06 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: fishtank

One of my doctoral students did a sabbatical with him. Interesting guy. Rice is the birthplace of ‘buckyballs’ and he is part of a big presence there in nanotechnology. As built molecules whose structures look like little caricatures. Turned it into a educational web site called the Nanokids

http://cohesion.rice.edu/naturalsciences/nanokids/


5 posted on 08/19/2016 9:22:55 AM PDT by organicchemist (Without the second amendment, the first amendment is just talk)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

” How did that happen? That’s the real question.”

Probably the same way cars and computers and houses came to be?

A designer and builder?


6 posted on 08/19/2016 9:25:01 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Iron Munro; fishtank

A great book on this subject that I can’t recommend highly enough is “Signature in the Cell” by Stephen Meyer.


7 posted on 08/19/2016 9:28:47 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A creationist says the erector set is NOT self-organizing.

In fact, he/she will notice that the erector set needed:

(1) knowledge of alloys,

(2) strength of materials info,

(3) dimensional tolerancing of parts,

(4) compatible design for distances to interconnect components,

(5) understanding of simple machines (threaded screws, pulleys, etc).

In short, I see the need for a Designer.


8 posted on 08/19/2016 9:33:30 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Bumpitybumpforlater


9 posted on 08/19/2016 9:34:58 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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10 posted on 08/19/2016 9:36:44 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

There are two ways to try to convince someone of something.

1) You can beat them over the head with your beliefs and tell them they’re stupid if they don’t agree with you

2) You can present them with a set of facts and trust that they have enough intelligence to connect the dots. If they don’t, you’re wasting your breath with either tactic.

You prefer #1. I prefer #2.


11 posted on 08/19/2016 9:37:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s a good review on information theory, posted here on FR:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=werner+gitt+site:www.freerepublic.com+


12 posted on 08/19/2016 9:38:09 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; fishtank

In the evangelical world, there is a tendency to pat oneself on the back for a surfeit of cleverness, when frequently it’s patience rather than cleverness that the good Lord is asking for the most of.

The result of doing it our way is to only convert the choir, so to speak. It’s a hard lesson to learn. I might say a million words in my life, and maybe 50 of them will really have made differences in eternity.


13 posted on 08/19/2016 9:54:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fishtank

Uhh...Carl Sagan said early earth had all the ingredients for starting life. On “Cosmos” he mixed a bunch of organic materials into green goop in a flask, and pronounced it building blocks for pre-life. He looked at it with a gleam in his eye as if he had really done something. Taught me all I needed to know about the hubris of science.


14 posted on 08/19/2016 10:12:31 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
How did that happen? That’s the real question.

Followed by "why doesn't it happen anymore?"
15 posted on 08/19/2016 10:18:37 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Rinnwald

Just to set the record straight, I’m a young earth creationist.

Also for the record, PhD Mech Eng, Texas A&M.


16 posted on 08/19/2016 10:20:53 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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“Dr. James Tour Tells Us How Little We Know About the Origin of Life”

That’s a hallmark of an educated man: being able to say that although he may know a lot about little, there’s also a lot that he knows very little about.

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/10/30/the-3-characteristics-of-an-educated-man/


17 posted on 08/19/2016 10:54:29 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Sopater

It already happened. The blueprint for life is built into the mathematics of the tiniest subatomic particle.


18 posted on 08/19/2016 11:22:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It already happened. The blueprint for life is built into the mathematics of the tiniest subatomic particle.

How many times did it happen? Is it still happening? Is life springing from non-life? Please provide a recent example. I would absolutely LOVE to see it.
19 posted on 08/19/2016 8:21:26 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: fishtank

Wow, thank you so much for posting this. A Giant. GIANT.

My genius teenage son will benefit immensely from hearing this lecture. It will instill in him both a sense of wonder at the glories of nature and a sense of scepticism with regard to ignorant claims about life arising from the primordial soup.

The very stones will cry out.


20 posted on 08/19/2016 9:36:08 PM PDT by blackpacific
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