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Is Free Trade Causing Job Loss?
Townhall.com ^ | August 17, 2016 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 08/17/2016 7:09:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: central_va
Total cost of federal regulations in 2012 was $2.028 trillion (in 2014 dollars). The annual cost burden for an average U.S. firm is $233,182, or 21 percent of average payroll.

http://www.nam.org/Data-and-Reports/Cost-of-Federal-Regulations/Federal-Regulation-Executive-Summary.pdf

201 posted on 08/17/2016 6:48:10 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Our economy is $19T is $353B. So overall the cost of compliance is < 2%.


202 posted on 08/17/2016 6:49:21 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

> Entire chemical related industries no longer exist in America because of EPA regs.

>>That doesn’t really answer the question. Did they offshore to save money on EPA compliance to save 10%, 20% or was more like 1%? I’ve seen bean counters make really stupid decision to save tiny amounts of money.

In some cases the EPA just up and made the chemical work illegal.

Here’s an example:

>The Herculaneum smelter is currently the only smelter in the United States which can produce lead bullion from raw lead ore that is mined nearby in Missouri’s extensive lead deposits, giving the smelter its “primary” designation. The lead bullion produced in Herculaneum is then sold to lead product producers, including ammunition manufactures for use in conventional ammunition components such as projectiles, projectile cores, and primers. Several “secondary” smelters, where lead is recycled from products such as lead acid batteries or spent ammunition components, still operate in the United States.

>Doe Run made significant efforts to reduce lead emissions from the smelter, but in 2008 the federal Environmental Protection Agency issued new National Ambient Air Quality Standards for lead that were 10 times tighter than the previous standard. Given the new lead air quality standard, Doe Run made the decision to close the Herculaneum smelter.

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/10/last-u-s-lead-smelter-to-close-ammunition-manufacturing-to-feel-effects/


203 posted on 08/17/2016 6:50:44 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: central_va
Our economy is $19T

And industry is about 20% of that.

204 posted on 08/17/2016 6:53:28 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Interesting. I would like to see a study on one company. Like maybe an auto manufacturer. So would the USA be better if the EPA never existed? If we got rid of all regulations would the USA be better off? No seat belts, dirty air, remember the 60's? I would say most of the EPA is BS but some of it was good. Same with OSHA.

Companies offshore for labor arbitrage reason more than to avoid regulations. They just pass that cost on.

205 posted on 08/17/2016 6:54:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Looks like manufacturing was 13% of GDP in 08.


206 posted on 08/17/2016 6:58:18 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

>Interesting. I would like to see a study on one company. Like maybe an auto manufacturer. So would the USA be better if the EPA never existed? If we got rid of all regulations would the USA be better off? No seat belts, dirty air, remember the 60’s? I would say most of the EPA is BS but some of it was good. Same with OSHA.

All of the big gains from clean air and water happened in the first round of regs. Everything since then has been industry and job destroying crap. The problem here is the EPA’s ability to create regulations out of thin air. The only regs directly created by congress should exit.


207 posted on 08/17/2016 6:58:55 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: central_va
$353 billion on manufacturing of about $2 trillion?
208 posted on 08/17/2016 7:01:07 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
$353 billion on manufacturing of about $2 trillion?

Not sure epa regs only covers manufacturers.

209 posted on 08/17/2016 7:02:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
You're right. Manufacturers have to deal with regs from other agencies as well.
210 posted on 08/17/2016 7:04:27 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

>So let’s get rid of the tilt, and have real free trade. If Americans choose to overtax and over regulate our industries, that’s not any other country’s fault, it’s our own.

It’s prefer not to live in a 3ed world de-indrustalizied nation.


211 posted on 08/17/2016 7:06:24 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Mining and agriculture are part of that $353B.


212 posted on 08/17/2016 7:08:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

All of these safety innovations came about without regulation. They were mandated after the fact. What begins as product differentiation ends as standard equipment. It doesn’t take some government agency to do that. As far as economy goes, I suggest we would have been much better off without the EPA. Manufacturers spend far too much trying to comply with asinine regulations that steal money straight from R & D. Can you say smog pump, ethanol, or diesel restrictions? And, if getting rid of leaded fuel made everyone smarter, how did Obama ever get elected?

As far as gross environmental concerns go, there probably should be some oversight. However, that oversight needs to be Constitutional, and that means legislation, not regulation.

There should be no governing body that is not directly accountable to the people. Every one of these agencies have quite predictably usurped powers reserved to the States and the People. To add injury to insult, there is often no legal recourse to their pronouncements. They are the only authorities competent to interpret the arcane penumbras of internecine bureaucratic flatulence. It all seems reasonable until you have lost your livelihood, business, home and family.

We have become a nation of law, except for those who make them.


213 posted on 08/17/2016 7:34:46 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (If those who defend our freedom do not know liberty, none of us will have either.)
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To: Mase
Don't do it by call. You do it by employee it. Company "X" is proud to be opening a call center in Swaddling Cloth, India for service. Guess what? Company gets charged $10,000 per employee.

Start taking care of our own. Not everybody is college material and that's the type of job fits the bill.

214 posted on 08/19/2016 5:44:14 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: Kaslin

If the teamsters are agin it, it must be good


215 posted on 08/19/2016 5:47:10 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... We Frack for Peace)
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To: j.argese
Company "X" is proud to be opening a call center in Swaddling Cloth, India for service. Guess what? Company gets charged $10,000 per employee.

Per employee in India?

216 posted on 08/19/2016 4:36:08 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yup. Per year.


217 posted on 08/20/2016 8:02:55 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: j.argese

How do you know how many they have?


218 posted on 08/20/2016 8:35:24 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Negotiate. Hit @ triple the # you think they have.


219 posted on 08/23/2016 6:27:49 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: j.argese

They’ll send you a picture. 3 guys.


220 posted on 08/23/2016 7:04:38 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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